But that's part of what I mean. I'm wondering how Zoe comes across in the film to people who are just meeting her for the first time.
eta...
Um, No. Zoe is NOT just the pilot's wife.
See? Perkins gets it.
Ten percent of nothing is -- let me do the math here -- nothing into nothing, carry the --
Jayne ,'Serenity'
Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains
Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.
Topic!Cindy - Sep 30, 2005 4:24:45 am PDT #5236 of 10001
What is even happening?
Lee - Sep 30, 2005 4:25:45 am PDT #5237 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
Cindy, that's just Ebert being a pillock. Zoe and Wash aren't used enough, but she is not just there as his wife.
Topic!Cindy - Sep 30, 2005 4:28:11 am PDT #5238 of 10001
What is even happening?
Good. Thanks, Perkins. Because here's where I am. I loved Firefly. I got really bitter (at FOX). I got over it. Truthfully, I got over Firefly a little, too. But I'd rather remember it as it was, than watch some movie where Zoe isn't Zoe.
smonster - Sep 30, 2005 4:39:03 am PDT #5239 of 10001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.
That should read:
"Captain Malcolm Reynolds, his badass second Zoe, her husband Wash, the pilot..."
I'll be charitable and assume it's b/c AT is more of a name than GT.
And Cindy - Zoe is most definitely Zoe. No worries on that count.
Topic!Cindy - Sep 30, 2005 4:41:40 am PDT #5240 of 10001
What is even happening?
Interview with Joss: [link]
That should read:
"Captain Malcolm Reynolds, his badass second Zoe, her husband Wash, the pilot..."
Exactly.
And Cindy - Zoe is most definitely Zoe. No worries on that count.
That's good to read, smonster. It's good to see you here, too.
UTTAD - Sep 30, 2005 4:44:00 am PDT #5241 of 10001
Strawberry disappointment.
Review from Empire Magazine. Here.
Their verdict: If you’re a novice, this is a plucky introduction to Whedon’s world and the most fun sci-fi of the year. If you’re a devotee, this is the magnificent return you’ve been praying for.
smonster - Sep 30, 2005 4:46:23 am PDT #5242 of 10001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.
From the Ebert review, on the Fox cancellation.
What a crock, especially considering that Josh Whedon, the TV series author (and writer-director of "Serenity") earlier created "Buffy, the Vampire Slayer," and so deserved the benefit of the doubt.
Sweet, if misspelled. Overall, a good review from a big someone who's not a Browncoat.
Hi Cindy! I'm lurking, on and off, and posting rarely. VM, Boxed Set, and here, pretty much. Good to see you, too.
Topic!Cindy - Sep 30, 2005 4:53:32 am PDT #5243 of 10001
What is even happening?
3.5 stars (out of 5) from The Boston Globe. >[link]
It's a fairly mixed review. The critic did not watch the series, so I found his perspective interesting.
Frankenbuddha - Sep 30, 2005 5:00:30 am PDT #5244 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
WRT to Ebert's inadequate description of Zoe, can someone remind me if they made it clear that Zoe and Mal were in the war together in the movie? Zoe did more than be Wash's wife in the movie, but I can't for the life of me remember if they clearly delineated her long-term relationship with Mal. It's been a while since the preview, and I'm not sure I would have noticed it's absence even while I was watching it.
Emily - Sep 30, 2005 5:08:34 am PDT #5245 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola
Weird things about the Globe review:
an enormous space-faring jalopy
a post-war, post-Earth, multiracial universe.
Nuh? Well, enormous is relative, obviously. But "multiracial"? I mean, it is, yes, but that makes it sound as though there all those Blue Sun posters are really about Multicultural Day.
Weird things about this post:
Why have I not left yet?!?!