a physicality contained and graceful that a finishing school would instill
Or, Occamishly, a long time in one or more fighting systems. Even if not formally taught, but handed down within the family.
Jayne is a girl's name.
River ,'Trash'
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§ ita § - Feb 03, 2005 2:48:01 pm PST #518 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
DavidS - Feb 03, 2005 2:48:24 pm PST #519 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
I don't know where this image comes from, but I really see Mal without a dad.
Maybe 'cuz it's canon in the show?
Gus - Feb 03, 2005 2:53:03 pm PST #520 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.
... responsibility to the community and to her family and her household. It may have been a little cold, a little lacking in affection and warmth, and the comraderie of combat might have been the first time she felt that close to people she was responsible for and to...
Which is why I'm going with a military family for Zoe.
Mal is way too aware of what is going on to be heavily Dad-influenced. The male influence he had from the ranch hands was always tempered by the thought: "Hombre, these braggarts work for my Mom!"
§ ita § - Feb 03, 2005 2:55:19 pm PST #521 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Mal is way too aware of what is going on to be heavily Dad-influenced.
Okay, someone really needs to explain "What Fathers Make Boys Into" for ita. Clueless and jocky, it seems.
Gus - Feb 03, 2005 3:03:43 pm PST #522 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.
Clueless and jocky, it seems.
You have it, ita. You may not like further explication, but there it is.
Men are not to be trusted with rearing of anything but horses.
Beverly - Feb 03, 2005 3:03:52 pm PST #523 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.
I don't know where this image comes from, but I really see Mal without a dad.
Maybe 'cuz it's canon in the show?
Yup, that could be it.
ita, hmmm. How funny our differences in Zoe background speculation. You are quite as likely right as I am, with your
long time in one or more fighting systems. Even if not formally taught, but handed down within the family.
I'm tickled that we come up with very different ideas, based on our own experiences. And each would be likely.
Mal is way too aware of what is going on to be heavily Dad-influenced. The male influence he had from the ranch hands was always tempered by the thought: "Hombre, these braggarts work for my Mom!"
Yes, that's the read I had on it, too. Even if I was, you know, influenced by canon.
DavidS - Feb 03, 2005 3:05:34 pm PST #524 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Okay, someone really needs to explain "What Fathers Make Boys Into" for ita. Clueless and jocky, it seems.
Hmmm, well that's not really my plan with Emmett? Is that what you did with your son, Gus?
Psychological studies show that a father's influence on his son tends to manifest as modeling proper (socialized?) ways to express aggression.
I have no idea how that relates to this discussion of Mal, however.
§ ita § - Feb 03, 2005 3:05:37 pm PST #525 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Men are not to be trusted with rearing of anything but horses.
::wonders how to specify raised-by-Mom on eHarmony::
§ ita § - Feb 03, 2005 3:06:41 pm PST #526 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I have no idea how that relates to this discussion of Mal, however.
But didn't you draw conclusions about the status of his father from his character?
Beverly - Feb 03, 2005 3:07:56 pm PST #527 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.
ita, I think dad-raised sons often--but by no means always, or even most of the time--have all these expectations to live up to. Mom-raised sons tend to have more choices open to them. Men have different expectations for their sons, and that may be a narrower path.
Or, being a mom and not a dad, I could be completely full of shit. Dads?