Every planet has its own weird customs. About a year before we met, I spent six weeks on a moon where the principal form of recreation was juggling geese. My hand to God. Baby geese. Goslings. They were juggled.

Wash ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


Nilly - Sep 25, 2005 9:50:49 pm PDT #5089 of 10001
Swouncing

Nutty and Betsy and Zenkitty say what I wanted to say.

Or perhaps that just means she isn't closed-off and duplicitous.

In "Objects in Space", in the scene in which we get to see things from River's point of view, Kaylee is the only one who doesn't seem to radiate something completely different to River than the words she's actually physically pronouncing at the moment. I think that's also a sign of her lack of hiding her thoughts and emotions.

In "War Stories" I thought it was quite explicit that the only reason Kaylee even got near a gun was because she wanted to take part in the effort to save Mal, because he would have done the exact same thing for any one of them. She wanted to do something for a dear beloved friend, and found out later that it was not a thing she could do.

Of course, it risked the whole crew. But so did the missing piece of equipment that they didn't buy in "Serenity" which ended up breaking the whole engine in "Out of Gas". That's part of the point, for me - that they're living on what they can find and have, improvizing when they have to, having to trust what they can find, because there's nothing else for them to use. That's sort of what life in space/the frontier seem, in my eyes - you have to get by with what you have, or you fail, and the chance of failure is always present, and at the smallest slip.

I like the character of Kaylee, including the fact that Kiba pointed out, about how she is so quick to huff at others. She's so open and honest about her own emotions and thoughts, she can't hide any facet of them, for better or for worse. And I don't think that having a passion for life and an ability to enjoy what the world has shows a simplistic character. Straight-forward, a lack of hiding thoughts and emotions that people mostly hide - yes, but again I don't think it means you lack depth if you have no problem of sharing it.


Kiba Rika - Sep 26, 2005 3:04:03 am PDT #5090 of 10001
I may have to seize the cat.

I'm not sure I noticed that the show does actually display her fantastic body (with those cheeseburger-added pounds) before.

I may be the only one, but I think she looks better with the extra weight.


Polter-Cow - Sep 26, 2005 3:05:06 am PDT #5091 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I don't think you're the only one.


§ ita § - Sep 26, 2005 4:18:34 am PDT #5092 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Interview with Neil Gaiman and Joss Whedon.

Don't know if it's spoilery for Mirrormask or Serenity yet.

eta: It's not.


DCJensen - Sep 26, 2005 4:27:30 am PDT #5093 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

I hear Jewel was not required to regain weight for the movie.


Kate P. - Sep 26, 2005 4:47:37 am PDT #5094 of 10001
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

Kiba, you're definitely not the only one.


tommyrot - Sep 26, 2005 5:06:21 am PDT #5095 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Kiba, you're definitely not the only one.

She looks kinda' like a Hollywood starlet now. Back on the series she looked like a real person. OK, maybe that's too harsh on the starlets - I guess what I mean is in the series she looked like someone I could conceivably meet and get to know in everyday life.

Also, is 'starlet' used these days?


Zenkitty - Sep 26, 2005 5:37:27 am PDT #5096 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I thought she was cuter with the extra weight, too. But she is still beautiful, and I don't think she's starving herself to be thin or anything destructive. She's said that keeping the extra weight on was unpleasant, because she had to eat more than she wanted to. So I guess she just has a fast metabolism. Poor thing.


Kalshane - Sep 26, 2005 5:54:31 am PDT #5097 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I think she looked better with the extra weight too, but as it's been said, it's not like she's starving herself. Having to force oneself to eat lots cheeseburgers and donuts (if only I was forcing myself to eat the cheeseburgers and donuts I do.) is just as unhealthy as barely eating in an attempt to become super skinny.


§ ita § - Sep 26, 2005 6:33:44 am PDT #5098 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Having to force oneself to eat lots cheeseburgers and donuts (if only I was forcing myself to eat the cheeseburgers and donuts I do.) is just as unhealthy as barely eating in an attempt to become super skinny.

I disagree. If your destination weight is a healthy one for your frame (even if it's not your default), then it's not so bad. Super skinny is healthy for very few people. Jewel's TV!Kaylee weight might have been unfun to maintain (and that's enough grounds, IMO, to try and not do it anymore), but as long as she wasn't yoyoing, I don't think she was doing herself much harm, if any.