Funny thing about black and white. You mix it together and you get gray. And it doesn't matter how much white you try and put back in, you're never gonna get anything but gray.

Lilah ,'Destiny'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 15, 2005 4:54:23 pm PDT #4866 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I'm afraid that I'm going to go home, pop in a videotape from Angel Season 1, and see a Serenity ad on it...


brenda m - Sep 15, 2005 5:01:17 pm PDT #4867 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I do think it's a little bit busy. There's so much going on and the letterboxing doesn't help. But it's not bad, not at all.


DCJensen - Sep 15, 2005 5:09:46 pm PDT #4868 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

I'm wondering how the mainstream critics will treat Serenity.


Eddie - Sep 15, 2005 5:24:55 pm PDT #4869 of 10001
Your tag here.

I'm wondering how the mainstream critics will treat Serenity.

Sometimes I fantasize about Serenity pulling in $100M the first weekend and the Eberts sit up and say "WTF?".


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 15, 2005 5:46:01 pm PDT #4870 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I don't think it'll get quite there, but I'd expect a neat-looking space movie to crack $40 million opening weekend without several hundred thousand dedicated fans who'll pimp it to their friends and see it again and again.


Zenkitty - Sep 15, 2005 5:57:30 pm PDT #4871 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Matt, why don't you think it'll get there? Not being adversarial, just curious. I have no hope at all, myself, just because I want it so much.


evil jimi - Sep 15, 2005 8:04:35 pm PDT #4872 of 10001
Lurching from one disaster to the next.

I would be very surprised if it didn't do at least 15mil at the US boxoffice in its opening weekend. Add to that the boxoffice from the rest of the world, and this will easily make a very good profit for Universal. A trilogy (at least) is in the bag.


Tamara - Sep 15, 2005 8:10:15 pm PDT #4873 of 10001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.

I have to agree with evil jimi but, I think opening weekend will be closer to $20mil and the second weekend will only have a 25-30% drop off.


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 15, 2005 9:30:24 pm PDT #4874 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Matt, why don't you think it'll get there? Not being adversarial, just curious. I have no hope at all, myself, just because I want it so much.

Maybe because Batman Begins with the whole Warner Brothers publicity machine working in deep saturation mode and a lead character that's instantly recognizable to just about everyone on earth didn't get there either? Look, I'm optimistic about the movie's chances for success, but expecting it to break nine figures in three days is just setting yourself up for unnecessary heartbreak.


evil jimi - Sep 16, 2005 4:30:29 am PDT #4875 of 10001
Lurching from one disaster to the next.

Well, considering only 1 film in history has earned a 100+ million on opening weekend, I think it's fair to say Serenity won't stand a chance at getting that much.

btw Serenity came in second on a reader poll at Boxofficemojo.com for most anticipated movie of 2005. Beaten only by Revenge of the Sith.