Wash: Psychic, though? That sounds like something out of science fiction. Zoe: We live in a space ship, dear. Wash: So?

'Objects In Space'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


Topic!Cindy - Aug 14, 2005 3:28:52 pm PDT #4247 of 10001
What is even happening?

I'm not bitter, I just lost the joy. It's the completist in me that will prompt me to see the movie.


DavidS - Aug 14, 2005 4:22:29 pm PDT #4248 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Hey, Hec, as long as you're going to the comic store anyway, can you pick me up a copy of #2, too, if there's an extra? It sold out fast around here.

You got it. They had a bunch.

I'm not bitter, I just lost the joy.

Okay, joyless.


Susan W. - Aug 14, 2005 4:54:06 pm PDT #4249 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I also have some lingering bitterness despite being happy about the movie, because I like a brilliant TV series better than a brilliant movie in exactly the same way I prefer a brilliant doorstopper fantasy trilogy to an equally well-written novella. I like long stories. I like settling in with beloved characters for years and seeing how they and their world grow over time. That's more of a TV thing than a movie, so for me the movie is at best partial consolation.


KernelM - Aug 14, 2005 5:01:51 pm PDT #4250 of 10001
Ankh-Morpork Watchman, Dreamer, Scooby, Minister of Grace, Still Flyin' in a Zoo2 World

With the talk around here, you'd think the movie was personally responsible for killing the series dead dead dead.

I'm bitter as hell and always will be bitter about the lack of TV Fireflyness. (We should be gearing up for season 4 right now. *sniffles*)

But that's not going to stop me from being excited as all hell about the movie. I've already seen the movie in rough form, but you know what? That's only made me want to see the final product more.


Susan W. - Aug 14, 2005 5:04:52 pm PDT #4251 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Oh, no, I totally blame the network. But that doesn't change the fact that I prefer TV as a storytelling venue to movies.


Topic!Cindy - Aug 14, 2005 5:09:24 pm PDT #4252 of 10001
What is even happening?

I also have some lingering bitterness despite being happy about the movie, because I like a brilliant TV series better than a brilliant movie in exactly the same way I prefer a brilliant doorstopper fantasy trilogy to an equally well-written novella. I like long stories. I like settling in with beloved characters for years and seeing how they and their world grow over time. That's more of a TV thing than a movie, so for me the movie is at best partial consolation.

Yeah. This. And because my joy faded, I want something shiny and new, instead.

With the talk around here, you'd think the movie was personally responsible for killing the series dead dead dead.

Nah. It's like I needed a little help making my last car payment, but didn't get any. Then my friends pooled their resources, and got me a night in a limo. The last car payment would have served me longer and better, but a limo ride is always swell.


Kiba Rika - Aug 14, 2005 5:09:49 pm PDT #4253 of 10001
I may have to seize the cat.

While I enjoyed the movie immensely, and wanted to go see it again RIGHT AWAY, I did spend a good bit of it wishing instead that I'd gotten a bunch more episodes, because there are things you can do on TV that you can't do in movies, and I really like those things. (For one, fitting in 9 main characters is pretty much impossible in a movie. It was difficult on TV, but given time could be done.)


Cashmere - Aug 14, 2005 5:22:33 pm PDT #4254 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

Nah. It's like I needed a little help making my last car payment, but didn't get any. Then my friends pooled their resources, and got me a night in a limo. The last car payment would have served me longer and better, but a limo ride is always swell.

Or like I was hungry and instead of teaching me to fish, somebody took me to Red Lobster.

I don't blame the movie at all. I blame Fox 100%. And when I see the movie, I'll be gushy and full of praise. I'd nearly forgotten most of my bitterness while waiting for the film. It's only natural that seeing what I love on the screen again is going to dredge it back up.

You know, if I saw my first true crush on the street again, I would love it. But it would still feel like I'd been kicked in the gut.

It's kinda like that.


Allyson - Aug 14, 2005 5:23:03 pm PDT #4255 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I don't think the fans were exploited.

Are. I think that Universal is capitalizing on the fans' desperation about the series getting canceled.

Hey kid, get "Serenity" tattooed on your forehead in Papyrus and we'll give you a hat. Costs them nothing, and sort of puts the onus on the fans to make sure the flick is successful, which I find kinda crappy. I'd feel better about it all if it were a true partnership, and the fans' efforts were matched by the studio. Instead of a hat, promise them a billboard in their city. The studio can afford it, and I think the fans would appreciate the backup.

My bitterness is more complex than the canceled show, though. And I'm sure I'll get over it. I mean, it's only been, what, three years? I need at least five to drop a grudge.


DavidS - Aug 14, 2005 5:32:52 pm PDT #4256 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Are. I think that Universal is capitalizing on the fans' desperation about the series getting canceled.

"Capitalizing" is what happens in capitalism. Of course they're going to stoke the fanbase. Marketing is bullshit. It's the definition of bullshit.

I really don't get how somebody as savvy as you are about this stuff, Allyson, can view it with such righteous indignation. You know it's a business. You know how much money is a stake. It doesn't happen on the scale of fandom and friendship and loyalty.