You guys had a riot? On account of me? A real riot?

Jayne ,'Jaynestown'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


KernelM - Aug 01, 2005 2:54:13 pm PDT #3978 of 10001
Ankh-Morpork Watchman, Dreamer, Scooby, Minister of Grace, Still Flyin' in a Zoo2 World

Not knowing anything other than what I've read on some boards, I think there was a communications mixup between Universal and Joss.


Allyson - Aug 01, 2005 2:58:30 pm PDT #3979 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

From the interview:

If somebody wrote something, and it was right, I’d never change it, because I am too lazy. There are producers who need to control everything and I needed to control exactly what needed controlling, and if somebody could get it done I would walk away faster than you could see me. Like I was Bugs Bunny. There would just be smoke in the shape of where I was.

Which I think is important to remember. There were writers who didn't get rewritten, who were left alone to do good, solid work. Which is very different from some fan perspectives that JOSS DID IT ALL AND EVEN HELD THE BOOM.

Not knowing anything other than what I've read on some boards, I think there was a communications mixup between Universal and Joss

My theory is that Universal says yes to things and doesn't tell Mike. And then it doesn't go on the calendar. And if it isn't on the calendar, then it just doesn't exist.

See also: "We forgot to send in our Emmy package."


Kevin - Aug 01, 2005 5:08:51 pm PDT #3980 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Aye, I believe Allyson might be onto something there.

Allyson: you are far too polite elsewhere on t'internet. I wonder if somebody has hacked your userid?! Those 'Allyson' posts don't sound like you.


Allyson - Aug 01, 2005 5:30:01 pm PDT #3981 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I understand the skepticism. See also: CHUD, Tim Minear.


Steph L. - Aug 01, 2005 5:37:40 pm PDT #3982 of 10001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Tim's a CHUD?!? It's all so clear now....


tommyrot - Aug 01, 2005 5:41:25 pm PDT #3983 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

He received an award from the CHUD foundation, so he's an honorary CHUD.


Steph L. - Aug 01, 2005 5:44:07 pm PDT #3984 of 10001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

The CHUD have a foundation now? I didn't even know they had TV....

Are they stealing the Morlocks' cable?


tommyrot - Aug 01, 2005 5:48:31 pm PDT #3985 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Are they stealing the Morlocks' cable?

Yes, by using their trained sewer alligators to bite off the Morlocks' cables and drag them to the CHUD saunas.


Steph L. - Aug 01, 2005 5:57:11 pm PDT #3986 of 10001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Hell, they're organized! I had no idea. I thought the CHUD were still just roaming at random and attacking whoever was unfortunate enough to cross their path!

Do they have a health plan now?


tommyrot - Aug 01, 2005 5:59:29 pm PDT #3987 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Do they have a health plan now?

Unfortunately, they still feed their sick and injured to the alligators.