Cordelia: You're him. You're Angel's son. Connor: It's not like I got to choose.

'Hell Bound'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


Polter-Cow - Jun 22, 2005 7:43:00 am PDT #3314 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Actually, SciFi's going to air them soon, right?

I think the unaired episodes fell under the two-weeks-following-DVD-release policy.


Emily - Jun 22, 2005 7:45:55 am PDT #3315 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

Actually, SciFi's going to air them soon, right?

Oh, right! I'd forgotten! Yay!


Nutty - Jun 22, 2005 7:56:41 am PDT #3316 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Trash -- makes no sense, clunky plotting, but reasonably fun.

Message -- makes less than no sense, uneven plotting, "fun" in the dramatic tragedy while being witty sense.

HOG -- makes no sense, clunky plotting, no fun at all, and that's before you get to the parts that inspire dark plans of kidnapping and forced re-education.

For some reason, the making no sense thing is standing out, here. Still and all, catch me in the right mood and sense-making isn't always the priority.


Jon B. - Jun 22, 2005 7:59:14 am PDT #3317 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I think the unaired episodes fell under the two-weeks-following-DVD-release policy.

I forget how many weeks the following-DVD-release policy is, but however many weeks it is has long since passed. So, yeah, they're fair game.


Emily - Jun 22, 2005 8:04:13 am PDT #3318 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

You know what it was, was ita's "one is okay the other not" post, which once I went back and looked at it clearly meant unaired eps is okay, movie is not, but because of the setup of the sentence I thought...

Yeah, you can just ignore me.


Kalshane - Jun 22, 2005 9:23:12 am PDT #3319 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Of the unaireds, Trash is my favorite, though I do like HoG, despite the main villain being obnoxious. I've already discussed how much I dislike The Message.


Mr. Broom - Jun 22, 2005 9:28:59 am PDT #3320 of 10001
"When I look at people that I would like to feel have been a mentor or an inspiring kind of archetype of what I'd love to see my career eventually be mentioned as a footnote for in the same paragraph, it would be, like, Bowie." ~Trent Reznor

The only thing I disliked about The Message was them not letting Tracey in on the plan, which would've saved him. Felt a little deus ex for the sake of revealing his treacherousness ("treachery" sounds too highflown here) and keeping him from becoming a cast member, which was just about where it was headed. Otherwise, I got no beef. I liked Womack scene-chewy. Good counterpoint to Tracey's very deliberate ingratiating smarm.


Nutty - Jun 22, 2005 10:33:38 am PDT #3321 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

The only thing I disliked about The Message was them not letting Tracey in on the plan, which would've saved him.

I suspect it was intended as a "explaining later, running away now" type of situation, but it didn't quite work properly. Also, we might take it as proof that Tracy is too dumb to live, since who bothers to perform a stealthy escape if the plan all along is to surrender? But that didn't occur to him.

Just like, he had his visceral organs cut out, on a crook's shoddy promise that he would get them back some day.

Like I said, too dumb to live. I only hope they didn't transplant his brain into anybody.


-t - Jun 22, 2005 10:37:10 am PDT #3322 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Too dumb to live, too pretty to die.


Mr. Broom - Jun 22, 2005 10:41:10 am PDT #3323 of 10001
"When I look at people that I would like to feel have been a mentor or an inspiring kind of archetype of what I'd love to see my career eventually be mentioned as a footnote for in the same paragraph, it would be, like, Bowie." ~Trent Reznor

I'm more surprised that no one had a bone to pick about "The Message" being the third occurrence of "Simon pisses off Kaylee by saying something without thinking first but everything's more or less okay by the end of the episode." I mean, I kind of like it as a recurring theme because it emphasizes that Simon, while smart and pretty and civilized, lacks useful social skills, but I was expecting someone to be annoyed by the repetition.