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Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


Kalshane - Jun 22, 2005 9:23:12 am PDT #3319 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Of the unaireds, Trash is my favorite, though I do like HoG, despite the main villain being obnoxious. I've already discussed how much I dislike The Message.


Mr. Broom - Jun 22, 2005 9:28:59 am PDT #3320 of 10001
"When I look at people that I would like to feel have been a mentor or an inspiring kind of archetype of what I'd love to see my career eventually be mentioned as a footnote for in the same paragraph, it would be, like, Bowie." ~Trent Reznor

The only thing I disliked about The Message was them not letting Tracey in on the plan, which would've saved him. Felt a little deus ex for the sake of revealing his treacherousness ("treachery" sounds too highflown here) and keeping him from becoming a cast member, which was just about where it was headed. Otherwise, I got no beef. I liked Womack scene-chewy. Good counterpoint to Tracey's very deliberate ingratiating smarm.


Nutty - Jun 22, 2005 10:33:38 am PDT #3321 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

The only thing I disliked about The Message was them not letting Tracey in on the plan, which would've saved him.

I suspect it was intended as a "explaining later, running away now" type of situation, but it didn't quite work properly. Also, we might take it as proof that Tracy is too dumb to live, since who bothers to perform a stealthy escape if the plan all along is to surrender? But that didn't occur to him.

Just like, he had his visceral organs cut out, on a crook's shoddy promise that he would get them back some day.

Like I said, too dumb to live. I only hope they didn't transplant his brain into anybody.


-t - Jun 22, 2005 10:37:10 am PDT #3322 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Too dumb to live, too pretty to die.


Mr. Broom - Jun 22, 2005 10:41:10 am PDT #3323 of 10001
"When I look at people that I would like to feel have been a mentor or an inspiring kind of archetype of what I'd love to see my career eventually be mentioned as a footnote for in the same paragraph, it would be, like, Bowie." ~Trent Reznor

I'm more surprised that no one had a bone to pick about "The Message" being the third occurrence of "Simon pisses off Kaylee by saying something without thinking first but everything's more or less okay by the end of the episode." I mean, I kind of like it as a recurring theme because it emphasizes that Simon, while smart and pretty and civilized, lacks useful social skills, but I was expecting someone to be annoyed by the repetition.


Emily - Jun 22, 2005 10:44:26 am PDT #3324 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

Actually, the Kaylee-pouting-because-Simon's-inept thing did bug me. Not that I said anything bout it. But yeah.


Mikey - Jun 22, 2005 7:13:53 pm PDT #3325 of 10001
All this time, I thought Hunter was a bitch. Turns out she was just hungry.

I identify with it. Really, I feel for Simon. Couldn't she cut the poor guy a little slack?

I think Trash might be my favorite, period. It is certainly the one I watch the most.

A friend of mine calls Trash one of the finest hours of scripted TV, period.


sumi - Jun 22, 2005 7:24:18 pm PDT #3326 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

There is lots to love with "Trash" -- but "The Message" has Jayne's hat ! Made by his mom !!!


smonster - Jun 23, 2005 3:21:24 am PDT #3327 of 10001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Watched The Message and HoG last night with some folks who hadn't seen them but are coming to the movie. We had to back up the DVD and run a scene again b/c it was skipping, and one of our friends was already reciting the funny lines along with the actors.

I am a huge and unabashed sap. I freely admit that there are major plot holes in The Message, but they don't really bother me. I love Jonathan's performance and I get teary every time I watch the last ten minutes or so. Gina rocks so hard in this one, too. Zoe draws her boundaries with Tracey so clearly, from beginning to end.

The only thing I disliked about The Message was them not letting Tracey in on the plan, which would've saved him.

I don't disagree that this is irritating, but Mal kind of did the same thing to Simon in Bushwhacked. OTOH, seems like he would have at least yelled, "We're not turning you in, you dim-witted [insert Mandarin curse here]," once Tracey took Kaylee hostage.

Similarly, in HoG, I have so much love for Melinda Clarke and how she manages to transcend what could be total crap roles. Also? Way hotter than Morena, and I'm not even an Inara hater.


DXMachina - Jun 23, 2005 3:36:42 am PDT #3328 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

HoG. Worst. Episode. Ever.

I hated pretty much everything about it, mostly because it had Mal, Zoe, and Wash all playing fools. I did think Melinda Clarke was the best part of the ep. Would that she had been cast as Inara.