And what was the thing they did in Top Gun?

Do you mean the "hit the brakes and he'll fly right by" maneuver? It's called "fatal error." It was just as dumb and wrong in Top Gun as it was in Space Cowboys, but handwave it away and blame it on Hollywood.

A few years after Top Gun Victor Pugachev demonstrated an extreme version of the maneuver in an SU-27 at the Paris airshow. It made such an impression that it's usually called "Pugachev's Cobra," but now and then you'll see it referred to as "dynamic deceleration." It's a great airshow maneuver, but a bad way to manage energy and position in combat, and a bad way to modify a landing approach in a glider.

Well, you know, just in case one or two folks haven't seen it....

Yo.

(It is apparently now my duty to announce in each show thread that I'm the lone heathen that hasn't seen/heard the movie/musician being discussed.)

I watched a horrible one on Sci-Fi months ago just for AB.

I remember flipping channels a few months back and stopping because I saw Adam Baldwin in a movie. I have no idea what the name of the movie was, all I know is he was apparently a goateed, pony-tailed doctor being forced by Chinese gangsters to work on a wounded comrade. As much as I may like the guy, I couldn't watch more than a handful of minutes before I had to change the channel.

Oh, I understand. I watched a horrible one on Sci-Fi months ago just for AB. I have no recollection what it was about. Small beach town, big monster, I think.

Slap Shot II, Callum Keith Rennie. I've been scarred too badly to blindly follow actors anymore.

And what was the thing they did in Top Gun?

Do you mean the "hit the brakes and he'll fly right by" maneuver? It's called "fatal error."

Dude, that would have been so much better. Now I feel all cheated.

I've been scarred too badly to blindly follow actors anymore.

It is a risky gambit, I admit. So far I've emerged unscathed. Apparently, I have a high tolerance for painful movies.

It is a risky gambit, I admit. So far I've emerged unscathed. Apparently, I have a high tolerance for painful movies.

Nobody's ever going to top Ple's efforts in tracking down Alexis Denisof vehicles. There are some really really really bad movies in his filmography.

Well, maybe Matt. Matt's shown some real obsession dedication tracking down CK flix too.

I ordered a copy of The Keyman ("released" in the US as Finding Redemption) starring Adam Baldwin from a Belgian website because that was the only place I could find a copy at the time. Does that count? :) The sad part is I can also name the two AB movies above - Gargantua and Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde. I'm kind of surprised that I haven't tracked down more of Alexis Denisof's work, since I like him more than AB. I do own Rip it Off, aka Behind the City Limits, though. I can sit through B movies (and below) with the best of them, I guess.

Having tracked down and watched most of Mark Dacascos's filmography, and with the rest on my Netflix queue, I know of this pain.

Another HITG moment. Franc Ross, who played Monty in the Firefly ep. "Trash," is in the "Sniper One" ep. of Numb3rs, playing Wayne Osborne, the early suspect and ATF snitch.

eta: Some other interesting items in his IMDB entry: he was in the first two eps. of season 6 of BtVS, and he played "Grizzled Human" in an ep. of Enterprise.

I just watched that ep of Numbers, and I didn't make the connection, but, yeah. Monty. Heh.

She's taken to Netflixing films she knows will be horrible simply because AB is in them.

If she gets The Chocolate War, not only will she see a young AB, but she'll see my Queer Stunt Husband.