Slay-er? Chosen One. She who hangs out a lot in cemeteries? You're kidding. Ask around. Look it up: Slayer comma The.

Buffy ,'Showtime'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


Theodosia - May 31, 2005 9:02:22 am PDT #2687 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I bought 8 in Boston last time.

And I know at least three friends who wanted to but couldn't see it, so I may be trying for more tickets to give to them....


sumi - May 31, 2005 9:27:07 am PDT #2688 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

If there was a limit on tickets -- I never heard what it was.


Dana - May 31, 2005 9:29:03 am PDT #2689 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Okay. So all I need now is for tickets to actually go on sale. And for none of the other 4 million people in the city to care.

t waits expectantly


Kiba Rika - May 31, 2005 9:53:24 am PDT #2690 of 10001
I may have to seize the cat.

And shoes are The Most Important Thing.

I am among the least girly of women and yet still believe this.


Volans - May 31, 2005 10:24:04 am PDT #2691 of 10001
move out and draw fire

Where's the next screening?


Jon B. - May 31, 2005 10:26:09 am PDT #2692 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Betsy HP "Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains" May 27, 2005 2:05:45 pm PDT


Zenkitty - May 31, 2005 11:25:25 am PDT #2693 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I may try for the Philly one. I'm getting impatient.


Typo Boy - May 31, 2005 7:11:00 pm PDT #2694 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Don't see why Miles can' t count as Sci-fi. If you want to count it as romance too fine - but I don't know that there any rule one genre automatically trumps the other. Also, I would say that the Warrior Apprentice (the first written, though not the first in chronology) was definitely more Sci-fi than Romance. Unless you think concern with human relationships is non-science fictiony - in which case we got beef. :-)


Volans - May 31, 2005 7:45:29 pm PDT #2695 of 10001
move out and draw fire

Unless you think concern with human relationships is non-science fictiony - in which case we got beef.

No, no beef here. Like I said, I waver, and I think some of the books are more sci-fi and others are more romance. The stories that focus mostly on wedding plans and what people are wearing are the ones that ping romance to me, so it's not even the discussion of relationships that slides the books around the genre chart. A couple of the later books have no SF whatsoever, other than oh yeah, there's space travel.

And I guess I'm using "romance" in the old way, to mean a stirring tale of derring-do. I don't mean to say that these books are Harlequin-style romances; those are in another place on the genre chart.

But hey, I don't think Star Wars is science fiction, and Firefly is neatly at the intersection of Good SF and Western and Romance.

(Ha! Back on topic!)


Typo Boy - May 31, 2005 8:06:49 pm PDT #2696 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Ah - I half agree that star wars is not science fiction. That is it was not GOOD science fiction. What I think it did was revive the worst cliches science fiction was starting to move beyond - had moved beyond in books, and was beginning to move beyond in movies, and brought them all back - without irony, without playing with the tropes - just said Gee aren't swordfights on starships, and space feudalism plain old neat? And gee can't we have aliens and robots stand in for racial minorities?

Whereas Firefly did not just do a gimicky merger of science fiction and western. (They were always a natural combination - Captain Kirk was essentially a space cowboy.) It played with the ideas - used them to create a convincing universe populated with real characters. And, as is natural in a real universe with real characters ideas mattered, because real poeple (as opposed to cardboard characters) have ideas bigger than "listen to your heart Luke". And seeing convincingly real people interact in a convinciningly real setting gives the audience more important thigns to enjoy thinking about than the nature of microchordians.

Sorry - but one of the reasons I loved Firefly was that (to me) it was the anti-star wars. George Lucas, putting out the first Star Was when he did, will always be to me the guy who brought the bottle of Glenlivet to the AA meeting.