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Gudanov - Feb 09, 2005 7:14:00 am PST #9909 of 10002
Coding and Sleeping

Has anyone ever read The Case for Christ by Lee Strobel? I've read the first couple of chapters and have found it....really unconvincing. It just seems to be all throwing softball questions to christian scholars. I peeked ahead at a section titled "The Rebuttal Evidence" to see if there was some real content and it was sort of .... there is this group who questions a lot of stuff and here is a critic of theirs to talk about them.... Ugh. The problem is that my wife is hoping that I will get a lot out of this book, and I hate to tell her that it's just not happening.


Susan W. - Feb 09, 2005 7:14:15 am PST #9910 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Vanderbuilt (sp?)

Vanderbilt.

I grew up too far south for Appalachia, but my part of Alabama has more affinities with that culture than with the moonlight-and-magnolias version of the South. Well, it did until it all got overran by Birmingham's New South boom over the past 20-30 years. So from my limited experience, I'd say it's a gritty culture, but cheerfully so, with a certain fascination with the macabre. And it was always amusing to reflect on all the stories Dad had told me about how Brother Howard, the local Baptist pastor, was the son of a big-time moonshiner from Prohibition days.


Cashmere - Feb 09, 2005 7:14:55 am PST #9911 of 10002
Now tagless for your comfort.

vw, I wishwishwishwish I could get you a picture of my great-uncle Joe. My dad has this huge portrait of him hanging in their living room. He served in WWI, came back to Kentucky and ended up getting shot while riding his mule through a hollow in 1957. The official story is that he was involved in a "land dispute". Mom says he was killed by a jealous husband. I have so many stories from my Dad and Grandpa. I would LOVE to sit in on that class with you.


Cashmere - Feb 09, 2005 7:15:24 am PST #9912 of 10002
Now tagless for your comfort.

Oh, and Happy Birthday, Lexine!!!


tommyrot - Feb 09, 2005 7:23:21 am PST #9913 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Has anyone ever read The Case for Christ by Lee Strobel?

I read something like that once... maybe the same book? about 18 years ago or so. The one thing I remember was the the author telling the reader to contemplate the following two phrases:

Jesus is nowhere.

Jesus is now here.

I guess that was supposed to illuminate the paradox of the "Where is God?" question. I just wanted to say to the author, "Dude, that's an accident of spelling...."


Susan W. - Feb 09, 2005 7:24:27 am PST #9914 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Has anyone ever read The Case for Christ by Lee Strobel?

My mother adores it and gave me a copy, but I never read it and eventually got rid of it. Which I know doesn't help you much. I got the impression it was something along the lines of Evidence That Demands a Verdict, by Josh McDowell, which all the Campus Crusade kids read in college. (In InterVarsity we spent more time reading Passion and Purity so we could bring our love lives under Christ's control. I kinda wish I'd saved my heavily highlighted copy just for a record of who I used to be.)

t liberalish Christian Anyway. I'm of two minds about the whole "let's prove Christianity!" genre. (Which AFAIK does *not* yet have its own section at B&N, but give it time....) I wouldn't be a Christian if I didn't believe the major events of the Bible, particularly Jesus' resurrection, actually happened. But OTOH, I think intellectual persuasion has its limits, especially since the authors tend to stack the deck. I feel like faith has to leave room for mystery and doubt, too. t /liberalish Christian


lisah - Feb 09, 2005 7:25:46 am PST #9915 of 10002
Punishingly Intricate

happy birthday Lexine!

vw, are you reading any Fred Chappell in your class? He was one of my grad school teachers. His version of Appalachia is not quite so bleak as the one in the scary book.


tommyrot - Feb 09, 2005 7:27:28 am PST #9916 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Evidence That Demands a Verdict, by Josh McDowell, which all the Campus Crusade kids read in college.

That is what I was thinking of.

In college, I was a member of some campus atheist group - we used to debate the Campus Crusade kids, which is how the book got into my hands.


Connie Neil - Feb 09, 2005 7:30:26 am PST #9917 of 10002
brillig

vw, I read a review of the book you're reading, and the last section is supposed to be quite funny in a satirical way. Of course, one person's satire is another one's gut-wrenching horror. The whole book is supposed to be funnier than not.


§ ita § - Feb 09, 2005 7:32:03 am PST #9918 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I guess that was supposed to illuminate the paradox of the "Where is God?" question. I just wanted to say to the author, "Dude, that's an accident of spelling...."

No, it's a truth, but one that only English speakers get to participate in.