Simon: I'm trying to put this as delicately as I can... How do I know you won't kill me in my sleep? Mal: You don't know me, son. So let me explain this to you once: If I ever kill you, you'll be awake, you'll be facing me, and you'll be armed.

'Serenity'


Natter 31 But Looks 29  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Ginger - Jan 19, 2005 6:29:35 pm PST #8393 of 10002
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I don't cry at funerals or personal tragedies, which is, I suppose, one reason why my family thinks of me as being unemotional. I have completely melted down from a number of Buffy episodes, Little Women, It's a Wonderful Life, almost any act of heroism, and, on occasion, lost dog signs.


§ ita § - Jan 19, 2005 6:33:39 pm PST #8394 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

one basic mode of expression is partially closed off to me.

Even before crying became so potentially detached from feeling, I never thought of crying as communication or expression beyond the self -- and when I do, it becomes just like words, capable of misdirection.

I mean, knowing I could mist up when someone else was grieving by imagining Girlfight or Charlie's Angel divests it of any inherent honesty. I might as well tell her how I feel, hold her hand, express through action.

I do feel cheated because I'll never sing a love song (or perhaps even a lullaby) and elicit anything other than panic, but it's a small thing. I have other vocabulary. I get by.

Also, sometimes I am a heartless monster.


Atropa - Jan 19, 2005 7:09:34 pm PST #8395 of 10002
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

I cry at all kinds of silly things. Sad movies, sad TV shows, sad songs, joyous versions of all of the above.

Yep. All sorts of things will make me cry. Sad crying, happy crying, I'm waaaaay too tired and should be sleeping but instead I'm going to weep crying ...

I perhaps need to get a tighter rein on my emotions.

Huh. That would probably mean I should, too.


Susan W. - Jan 19, 2005 7:15:30 pm PST #8396 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I don't cry at funerals or personal tragedies, which is, I suppose, one reason why my family thinks of me as being unemotional. I have completely melted down from a number of Buffy episodes, Little Women, It's a Wonderful Life, almost any act of heroism, and, on occasion, lost dog signs.

Ginger is me. I kept the Buffy finale on my Tivo for months just so I could watch the Slayer activation montage and get misty-eyed at the Softball!Slayer again.

And with big tragedies, if I cry at all it's over some little detail. I was at a memorial a few days after 9/11, and for most of the service I was solemnly, stoically angry. Until I saw a woman wearing not black, like I was, nor red, white, and blue, as some were, but one of those standard tourist "I (heart) NY" t-shirts. Then I couldn't stop crying. And with the tsunami, I cried over a woman talking about having a baby exactly Annabel's age swept from her arms, even while I berated myself for turning into one of those women who couldn't hear about a tragedy without thinking "What if that was MY bay-bee?"


Allyson - Jan 19, 2005 7:18:11 pm PST #8397 of 10002
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

ita, did you watch LOST?


§ ita § - Jan 19, 2005 7:19:29 pm PST #8398 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

ita, did you watch LOST?

Yes I did -- why?


Vonnie K - Jan 19, 2005 7:23:25 pm PST #8399 of 10002
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

I watched 30 minutes of Point Pleasant and my God, I want those minutes back. It's just godawful. Crap acting, blah dialog, shoddy editing, ludicrous premise--you name it, it's got it. What the hell is Marti doing?


Allyson - Jan 19, 2005 7:23:30 pm PST #8400 of 10002
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I thought I remembered you talking about the Magical Black Character trope at some point, and it leaped out at me. Was wanting to discuss, but wasn't sure if it was you or Kat that had been discussing it before.


§ ita § - Jan 19, 2005 7:27:13 pm PST #8401 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Allyson, I think it all depends on whether he inspires anyone, and so far, NSM -- but the other black survivor, an intermittently appearing woman, is definitely the inspirational kumbaya type. Give us free. Or you know, something interesting.


Polter-Cow - Jan 19, 2005 7:36:15 pm PST #8402 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Yeah, but ita, Michael's black too, and he ain't inspiring nobody. I think the trope to discuss here is the Freaky Little Kid Who Does Magic Things.