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Daisy Jane - Jan 12, 2005 9:36:55 am PST #5287 of 10002
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

his father made a horrible statement about non-theists not being, to his mind, able to be as patriotic.

You know in their sense of the word "patriotic" we're probably not.

Gudanov - Jan 12, 2005 9:37:33 am PST #5288 of 10002
Coding and Sleeping

"Bush: 'I don't see how you can be president without a relationship with the Lord'..."

I think that could just mean he needs his faith to have the strength to deal with the job, rather than you must be Christian to be president.

brenda m - Jan 12, 2005 9:37:42 am PST #5289 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Cindy, Bush Sr. said that athiesm was incompatible with patriotism. Bush Jr, in a defense of his inclusiveness, said that he would nominate anyone who belived in god, be they Christian, Jewish, or Muslim.

Daisy Jane - Jan 12, 2005 9:38:13 am PST #5290 of 10002
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

First paragraph in the link.

Astarte - Jan 12, 2005 9:38:23 am PST #5291 of 10002
Not having has never been the thing I've regretted most in my life. Not trying is.

Not just "non-religious". Anyone who follows a non-Biblical religion.

brenda m - Jan 12, 2005 9:39:06 am PST #5292 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I think that could just mean he needs his faith to have the strength to deal with the job, rather than you must be Christian to be president.

I don't find that any less objectionable, fwiw.

Whoops, read too fast. I skipped over the "he" and "his."

But it's not what he said, and I don't believe it's what he means.

Topic!Cindy - Jan 12, 2005 9:41:04 am PST #5293 of 10002
What is even happening?

Cindy, Bush Sr. said that athiesm was incompatible with patriotism. Bush Jr, in a defense of his inclusiveness, said that he would nominate anyone who belived in god, be they Christian, Jewish, or Muslim.

Thanks, brenda.

Jars - Jan 12, 2005 9:41:13 am PST #5294 of 10002

I'm never sure whether it's okay to be mean about President Bush around Americans, y'know? Whether it's one of those 'we can mock, but outsiders better not' situations, like with family? And that's around Americans who don't like Bush. I don't think I've ever met an American who does though. Or at least, not one that would admit to it. Hmm.

Daisy Jane - Jan 12, 2005 9:41:44 am PST #5295 of 10002
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I think that could just mean he needs his faith to have the strength to deal with the job, rather than you must be Christian to be president.

You know, I could buy that if he'd said, "I rely on my faith" or "My faith aids me in my office" but he used "you". I know he's a crap speaker, but I think if what he meant was that he needs his faith, rather than "one must have a relationship with the Lord" he'd have said something else.

brenda m - Jan 12, 2005 9:42:21 am PST #5296 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

On a happier note:

Slightly askew Buffistas in Chicago: [link]

[aurelia, myself, and FredPete, to be exact]

Leaving our mark at Gino's East: [link]

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