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Topic!Cindy - Jan 12, 2005 9:41:04 am PST #5293 of 10002
What is even happening?

Cindy, Bush Sr. said that athiesm was incompatible with patriotism. Bush Jr, in a defense of his inclusiveness, said that he would nominate anyone who belived in god, be they Christian, Jewish, or Muslim.

Thanks, brenda.

Jars - Jan 12, 2005 9:41:13 am PST #5294 of 10002

I'm never sure whether it's okay to be mean about President Bush around Americans, y'know? Whether it's one of those 'we can mock, but outsiders better not' situations, like with family? And that's around Americans who don't like Bush. I don't think I've ever met an American who does though. Or at least, not one that would admit to it. Hmm.

Daisy Jane - Jan 12, 2005 9:41:44 am PST #5295 of 10002
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I think that could just mean he needs his faith to have the strength to deal with the job, rather than you must be Christian to be president.

You know, I could buy that if he'd said, "I rely on my faith" or "My faith aids me in my office" but he used "you". I know he's a crap speaker, but I think if what he meant was that he needs his faith, rather than "one must have a relationship with the Lord" he'd have said something else.

brenda m - Jan 12, 2005 9:42:21 am PST #5296 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

On a happier note:

Slightly askew Buffistas in Chicago: [link]

[aurelia, myself, and FredPete, to be exact]

Leaving our mark at Gino's East: [link]

Astarte - Jan 12, 2005 9:42:50 am PST #5297 of 10002
Not having has never been the thing I've regretted most in my life. Not trying is.

I find Bush more monstrous than mockable myself, but I got no argument with the mocking.

Allyson - Jan 12, 2005 9:43:16 am PST #5298 of 10002
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I don't think I've ever met an American who does though.

I bristle when unAmericans talk shit about my country. Home team pride.

Astarte - Jan 12, 2005 9:43:53 am PST #5299 of 10002
Not having has never been the thing I've regretted most in my life. Not trying is.

Very cool, Brenda. Thanks for the piccies.

Jars - Jan 12, 2005 9:46:01 am PST #5300 of 10002

I bristle when unAmericans talk shit about my country.

Yeah, that's what I figured.

I've never really been one for nationalism or patriotism myself, so it's something I've observed, rather than something I understand.

P.M. Marc - Jan 12, 2005 9:46:46 am PST #5301 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I bristle when unAmericans talk shit about my country.

I bristle at the uninformed shit talking (which usually fails to take into account that Seattle is going to be different than Savannah is going to be different than San Diego) and complete failure to take into account the complexities of the place.

However, shit talking about the administration I'm down with, because I usually agree.

Daisy Jane - Jan 12, 2005 9:48:04 am PST #5302 of 10002
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I bristle when unAmericans talk shit about my country.

I don't mind talking shit about the office holders, but talking about the office itself, or the country itself could get my back up. 'Specially since the rest of the world is affected so much by what we do. I think they have a right and a duty to be critical.

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