Wash: Don't fall asleep now. Sleepiness is weakness of character. Ask anyone. You're acting captain. Know what happens you fall asleep now? Zoe: Jayne slits my throat, and takes over. Wash: That's right. Zoe: And we can't stop it.

'Shindig'


Natter 31 But Looks 29  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


juliana - Jan 03, 2005 8:49:25 am PST #2472 of 10002
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

as a Vikings fan, I don’t have a lot else to be happy about.

Hee!! Go Pack!!

On the bright side, I really don't think Tice will be back next year.


msbelle - Jan 03, 2005 8:50:18 am PST #2473 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

New Jersey has basketball and hockey, but that's all.


JohnSweden - Jan 03, 2005 8:50:26 am PST #2474 of 10002
I can't even.

Sorry, I have to mock as a Vikings fan, and as a Vikings fan, I don’t have a lot else to be happy about.

I'm a Vikings fan too, and I'm treading pretty lightly on the mock front these days, considering how horrible our team is when the other team shows up.

ETA:

On the bright side, I really don't think Tice will be back next year.

I don't blame the coach, and he did just get his contract renewed. The O-line needs to be able to run block, and the linebacking corps needs, uh, replaced. Then we'll be respectable.


DXMachina - Jan 03, 2005 8:51:51 am PST #2475 of 10002
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

In the A's and Raiders you have two teams who (a) are proud to be in Oakland and (b) have won multiple world championships.

Except for the years where the Raiders moved to Los Angeles, you mean.


DXMachina - Jan 03, 2005 8:52:41 am PST #2476 of 10002
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

New Jersey has basketball and hockey, but that's all.

And apparently the Nets are moving to Brooklyn.


DavidS - Jan 03, 2005 8:53:08 am PST #2477 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Except for the years where the Raiders moved to Los Angeles, you mean.

Yep. And frankly I wish they'd stayed, because they totally fucked up the Oakland Coliseum when they came back. It was never a great place to watch baseball, but now that it's enclosed it really sucks.


Wolfram - Jan 03, 2005 8:53:13 am PST #2478 of 10002
Visilurking

Huh. I thought spousal privilege meant that you weren't forced to testify against your spouse, not that you weren't allowed to.

Maryland makes a distinction between marital communications privilege and spousal privilege. This is the way I understand it:

Marital communications privilege means if one spouse tells the other something in confidence during their marriage the "hearing" spouse is prohibited from testifying about the contents of the conversation even if the parties are no longer married. This privilege is held by the "speaking" spouse - and the theory is - he or she had an expectation of privacy when he or she communicated said information to his/her spouse. Similar to the expectation one has when communicated with one's attorney and similary it is the client who holds the privilege. The "hearing" spouse may testify about activities (that were not communications) or conversations that were not private.

Spousal privilege means that a spouse cannot be forced to testify about his/her spouse - both conversations and activities. The theory is - the government shouldn't intrude on the relationship. This privilege is held by the spouse being called to testify and he/she may choose to waive it at his/her discretion. This privilege does not apply if the couple is no longer married so ex-husbands/ex-wives can be forced to testify against their exes (with the exception of private marital communications for which the privilege is held by the ex.)

Hope this helps clear up some of the confusion.


§ ita § - Jan 03, 2005 8:53:17 am PST #2479 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Except for the years where the Raiders moved to Los Angeles

They did? Now I don't feel like such a doof for having LA Raiders in my head as a team name.


cathy - Jan 03, 2005 8:53:38 am PST #2480 of 10002
"Why do the facts hate America?" - Jon Stewart

They have already re-signed Tice, he will be back.

I just love how next weekend will either compound my season pain in gut-wrenching fashion (by losing to the Packers AGAIN) or possibly make all the pain go away entirely by kicking the Packers out of the post season triumphantly. I don't care what else happens in the post season if they acheive that.

But I'm not confident, to say the least.


Narrator - Jan 03, 2005 8:55:33 am PST #2481 of 10002
The evil is this way?

Sorry, I have to mock as a Vikings fan, and as a Vikings fan, I don’t have a lot else to be happy about.

I understand. You have Randy "He Who Leaves the Game Early" Moss playing for the Minnesota "We Back INTO the Playoffs" Vikings. You are suffering.

Narrator, where is the line around spousal privilege? In other words, although Jackson's ex-wife might not be able to testify against him in court, can police listen to what she has to say, and act on any tips she can provide? If they do, and come up with evidence because of that, would the evidence be admissible in court, even if the tip from her wasn't?

It should be "fruit of the poisonous tree" and thus not admissible. Basically, if the police got information from the wife about communications MJ had with her during the marriage, then they can't use it. For example, if MJ told her where he hid child porn of the boys who visited Neverland, she can't disclose that. If she does and the police find the pictures, they pictures are not admissible againt MJ. UNLESS (in many jurisdictions) if the police can prove that they would have found the pictures independently of that tainted information. If the hiding place was MJ's computer, they would have found them anyway. If the hiding place was somewhere buried on the grounds, maybe not.