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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Narrator - Jan 03, 2005 8:55:33 am PST #2481 of 10002
The evil is this way?

Sorry, I have to mock as a Vikings fan, and as a Vikings fan, I don’t have a lot else to be happy about.

I understand. You have Randy "He Who Leaves the Game Early" Moss playing for the Minnesota "We Back INTO the Playoffs" Vikings. You are suffering.

Narrator, where is the line around spousal privilege? In other words, although Jackson's ex-wife might not be able to testify against him in court, can police listen to what she has to say, and act on any tips she can provide? If they do, and come up with evidence because of that, would the evidence be admissible in court, even if the tip from her wasn't?

It should be "fruit of the poisonous tree" and thus not admissible. Basically, if the police got information from the wife about communications MJ had with her during the marriage, then they can't use it. For example, if MJ told her where he hid child porn of the boys who visited Neverland, she can't disclose that. If she does and the police find the pictures, they pictures are not admissible againt MJ. UNLESS (in many jurisdictions) if the police can prove that they would have found the pictures independently of that tainted information. If the hiding place was MJ's computer, they would have found them anyway. If the hiding place was somewhere buried on the grounds, maybe not.


JohnSweden - Jan 03, 2005 8:55:38 am PST #2482 of 10002
I can't even.

But I'm not confident, to say the least.

Yeah. The Pack suck too, even if they win by a last-second Longwell field goal AGAIN. They ain't going noplace past next week no matter what happens.


cathy - Jan 03, 2005 8:55:46 am PST #2483 of 10002
"Why do the facts hate America?" - Jon Stewart

I'm a Vikings fan too, and I'm treading pretty lightly on the mock front these days, considering how horrible our team is when the other team shows up.

Oh, absolutely, I know. But I live in Chicago, so this season sometimes my only NFL joy is watching the Bears trot out another quarterback to fail spectacularly.


§ ita § - Jan 03, 2005 8:57:29 am PST #2484 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

How far does fruit of the poisoned tree go? If she finds them because he told her they existed (but not where) and hands them to the cops -- do they have to throw it out as evidence?


shrift - Jan 03, 2005 8:58:06 am PST #2485 of 10002
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Bounding into natter to wave madly at everyone what wished me a happy.

I don't have to work today. My relatives finally are leaving on a jet plane. I have many books and DVDs and comics. Later, I shall have cake.

Today is a good day. It is mine and I am keeping it.


Kat - Jan 03, 2005 8:59:04 am PST #2486 of 10002
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

WRT: MJ's wife and alimony...

isn't it pretty much common knowledge that Michael Jackson is virtually bankrupt at this point? I mean, I remember this being common knowledge prior to the abuse charges and continuing legal fees.

So the fact that he doesn't pay his bills should not have been surprising to his "wife" when it came time for alimony.


Narrator - Jan 03, 2005 8:59:05 am PST #2487 of 10002
The evil is this way?

Maryland makes a distinction between marital communications privilege and spousal privilege.

Thanks for the information. I think most jurisdictions have a "marital communications privilege" whereas not all have the "spousal privilege." It doesn't look like California does.


tommyrot - Jan 03, 2005 8:59:31 am PST #2488 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Once upon a time the Dodgers were the Brooklyn Dodgers rather than the New York Dodgers

When did they change? I've only known them as the Brooklyn Dodgers. (Although I don't follow baseball closely, and I learned of the Dodgers' Brooklynness from some baseball books I read as a child.)


Nora Deirdre - Jan 03, 2005 8:59:37 am PST #2489 of 10002
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

ita, you need to watch more L&O!


cathy - Jan 03, 2005 8:59:47 am PST #2490 of 10002
"Why do the facts hate America?" - Jon Stewart

I understand. You have Randy "He Who Leaves the Game Early" Moss playing for the Minnesota "We Back INTO the Playoffs" Vikings. You are suffering.

This is funny.

I actually got in an argument with my husband yesterday over Moss’ behavior and how I should be mad at him.

While I do know that’s not cool, frankly, I was as disgusted with the Vikings as he was and because I can be moody and petulant too, I felt compelled to defend him.

I know, it’s wrong. But I still understand it.