I'm not going to press or push, but - keep it open, please? It would be so much cooler if you guys were here.

I will do the same and feel the same about you being there. I will do anything I can to help get ya'll down there if it proves possible a little closer to the dates. We could let Em and Lily loose on SF and see what happens!!

We could let Em and Lily loose on SF and see what happens!!

They would conquer through UNSTOPPABLE CUTENESS.

Or get themselves trpped in The Hole at Alcatraz.

My mom has never been to SF, even though in her youth she lived in Sacramento. She didn't want to go alone and her redneck roommate had no use for the place.

erika, I'm thinking we'll rent a van while you're out here. Toyota has handicap-access vans, I think, and they're a quarter mile from our place.

Wow, too cool, Deb.

Well, the van rental was always the plan, whether it turned out to be the official F2F or a totally different visit. Thing about the van rental is, I think it means you two can fly out here, and not have to spend four days of your vacation on the road.

Unless you want to Kerouac it....

I'm fairly certain there will also be a jaunt out to Berkeley, for heavy-duty Bay Area pimpage. It's even more aggressively everyone-accessible than San Francisco -- wheelchair access ramps for everything from dive bars to funky dance clubs to swanky art galleries to SF/speculative fiction bookstores to sex toy shops, ice cream parlors and vintage clothing stores. It'll make your head spin like a madly grinning top!

Berkeley rocks, yo. It rocks so damned hard, AM stations can't play it. I love North Berkeley; maybe there'll be some good music on at the Freight & Salvage? If there's interest, I can ask Danny Carnahan to keep us posted on that, as we get a lot closer.

Also want to find out if there's likely to be any interest in a local spa day.

Also want to find out if there's likely to be any interest in a local spa day.

Um, HELL yeah.