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F2F 3: Who's Bringing the Guacamole?  

Plan what to do, what to wear (you can never go wrong with a corset), and get ready for the next BuffistaCon: San Francisco, May 19-21, 2006! Everything else, go here! Swag!


deborah grabien - Jun 30, 2005 8:05:32 am PDT #3388 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

At least half the places I'm looking at list "data port" or "modem port" in every room. That's what we're talking about, right?


JZ - Jun 30, 2005 8:13:50 am PDT #3389 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Booking an entire small hotel sounds fantastic, but I'm wary. If what happened last year happens again, we could end up with many fewer people than expected and be stuck with still having to foot the bill.

That is wary-making, but if we're able to lock in a seriously low rate (the Hayes Valley Inn has a current online special running as low as $49 and an absolute maximum non-special rate of something like $99; I don't know what group rate we could get, but presumably it'd be somewhere in between), that might be enough to prevent a repeat of last year.

Though it's frustrating that it's all so much at the mercy of craxy airline price whimsies; we can exert some small (semi)control over the hotel costs, but the folks who will ultimately decide who can and can't make it are utterly beyond our control.


DebetEsse - Jun 30, 2005 8:18:28 am PDT #3390 of 10001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Deb, no. That's likely dial-up-ready phones.

wrt the Internet, I'm going in assuming (based on my own experience) the hotels will have 1 of 3 situations: 1) not at all 2) only in the lobby and/or conference rooms 3) everywhere. After NOLA, I don't see #1 or #2 leading to shiny happy Buffistas.


deborah grabien - Jun 30, 2005 8:30:15 am PDT #3391 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Debet, Nic just told me that "data ports" in every room means that the hotel is DSL-wired. Surely that's what we're looking at?

JZ, one of the deals on booking an entire small place is that we wouldn't be getting on a per-room basis; the likelihood is a flat fee for the time allotted.

And if there is in fact a nice PA-ready rehearsal room in SOMA or South Beach, how would people feel? I'm thinking four limos from hotel to rehearsal room and back again would do it....


erikaj - Jun 30, 2005 8:36:43 am PDT #3392 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

charmed by "Betsy Goes To SF" doggie children's book thoughts Tep.


DebetEsse - Jun 30, 2005 8:44:16 am PDT #3393 of 10001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Debet, Nic just told me that "data ports" in every room means that the hotel is DSL-wired. Surely that's what we're looking at?

IME, it can go either way, with that language, so you'd have to ask them whether the data ports are dial-up or Ethernet. If they have no idea what you're talking about, it's probably dial-up.


Lyra Jane - Jun 30, 2005 8:49:15 am PDT #3394 of 10001
Up with the sun

Surely not everyone cares about having internet access in their room? For instance, I really don't.

I don't either -- to me, part of the fun of being on vacation is getting a break from the screen -- but, as others have said, it does seem to be dealbreaker-y for many people.


deborah grabien - Jun 30, 2005 9:01:20 am PDT #3395 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

JZ, the Hayes Valley is a no: their TV/DVD room/hospitality suite only holds ten people and they aren't wired for internet. Alas.


Dana - Jun 30, 2005 9:01:33 am PDT #3396 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

There was much grumbling in New Orleans.


Jessica - Jun 30, 2005 9:02:25 am PDT #3397 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I think the reason that no internet access was such a common complaint this year is that it had been promised, and then turned out not to exist. If we knew in advance that the hotel wouldn't have wireless (or would only have dial-up, etc etc), I think we could deal with it.