The past couple days, I'm having an impossible time downloading large files. Can anyone recommend a good download manager? I'm tired of dying halfway through.
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Dana - Oct 24, 2006 11:34:07 am PDT #9316 of 10003
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."
esse - Oct 24, 2006 11:54:37 am PDT #9317 of 10003
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!
le nubian - Oct 24, 2006 4:34:48 pm PDT #9318 of 10003
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
I have been using that myself with the flashgot firefox extension.
§ ita § - Oct 24, 2006 9:15:24 pm PDT #9319 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Can someone talk me through SMTP? My understanding of the protocol was that the email did not have to travel directly from sending server to destination server. However, reading I am doing right now seems to contradict that.
In that case, the security vulnerabilities of an exposed message lie just in the two servers, right? And there's no provision for a secure connection between the two within the protocol?
esse - Oct 25, 2006 1:58:51 am PDT #9320 of 10003
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!
I think there's the possibility of authentication between the servers--I had to do that for my school's smtp server. And that can use SSL. But that's the only security I know for it.
Tom Scola - Oct 25, 2006 2:03:58 am PDT #9321 of 10003
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Can someone talk me through SMTP?
Yes, I can.
My understanding of the protocol was that the email did not have to travel directly from sending server to destination server. However, reading I am doing right now seems to contradict that.
Most email messages will go through many SMTP servers to reach their destination. The Received: headers of any email message will show all the hops it takes.
The description you're reading is probably an idealized, Platonic concept of how email is supposed to work. The real world is never that simple.
In that case, the security vulnerabilities of an exposed message lie just in the two servers, right? And there's no provision for a secure connection between the two within the protocol?
There is absolutely, positively no guarantee of security in SMTP. Email messages can be easily intercepted, looked at, and even modified on the way to their destination.
The only practical way to get secure email is to encrypt the message from the client, using PGP or S/MIME, before it is sent.
[x-post edit] The SSL/Authentication thing that SA is talking about is used to authenticate a user to an SMTP server when a message is initially submitted. It is seldom used in the intermediate hops between SMTP servers
tommyrot - Oct 25, 2006 5:12:31 am PDT #9322 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
The description you're reading is probably an idealized, Platonic concept of how email is supposed to work.
Now I'm wondering what OS the Platonic ideal email server runs on. And how well do email servers work in caves, with all the dampness....
Tom Scola - Oct 25, 2006 5:22:38 am PDT #9323 of 10003
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Now I'm wondering what OS the Platonic ideal email server runs on.
Multics.
And how well do email servers work in caves, with all the dampness....
The thing is, SMTP stands for Simple Mail Transfer Protocol. And it really is simple. Yet the things people do to fuck it up and make it much more complicated than it needs to be, oy...
§ ita § - Oct 25, 2006 6:18:34 am PDT #9324 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Thank you, Scola. I checked a few email headers, and they all looked point to point, and I doubted myself.
Now I am secure.
Tom Scola - Oct 25, 2006 7:33:57 am PDT #9325 of 10003
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