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TomW - Mar 30, 2006 7:44:17 am PST #7739 of 10003
"The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be."

Muesli to add that tommyrot is correct, the higher the number the better.

However, note the prefix. I believe that the X... cards from ATI are newer than 9... cards.

nVidia has a few ranges going at the moment. The GeForce 4/4mx cards are pretty old at this point. After that, I think you can identify the series based on the first number. GeForce FX starts with a 5, GeForce 6 with a 6 and GeForce 7 with a 7.

They then add all kinds of suffixes to confuse the issue and delight the compulsives.


Gudanov - Mar 30, 2006 7:47:37 am PST #7740 of 10003
Coding and Sleeping

You can get a basic Gateway DX110X and then install the graphics card.

Like this one: [link]

Or really any inexpensive computer with an available PCI-Express slot (The Gateway lists having one PCI-Ex16 slot free) and then disable the integrated video.

The problem is that you apparently need DirectX 9 support in the Video Card and integrated video is very unlikely to have that. But your processor requirements are pretty low, so to get a computer with a Video card that supports DX9 you'll probably have to pay a lot more since all the other components will be beefed up to.


TomW - Mar 30, 2006 7:48:37 am PST #7741 of 10003
"The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be."

My other recommendation would be not to skimp on the memory. I would put 512MB as the minimum and 1GB as recommended. It's relatively cheap and you get a good bang for your buck.


Betsy HP - Mar 30, 2006 7:52:10 am PST #7742 of 10003
If I only had a brain...

Over the years, we have learned that more memory is always worth it, and more disk often is.


Gudanov - Mar 30, 2006 7:52:19 am PST #7743 of 10003
Coding and Sleeping

You gotta look out for the letters after the numbers too. An ATI card that ends in "LE" is going to be a crippled version that costs less.


TomW - Mar 30, 2006 7:52:29 am PST #7744 of 10003
"The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be."

But your processor requirements are pretty low

You always want to overshoot the recommended specs, I think. I'm not saying that publishers lie through their teeth when they write them, but they certainly have a vested interest in not scaring people off.


Gudanov - Mar 30, 2006 7:55:11 am PST #7745 of 10003
Coding and Sleeping

I don't think you can buy a new computer that isn't going to overshoot the processor spec.


Gudanov - Mar 30, 2006 7:59:02 am PST #7746 of 10003
Coding and Sleeping

Actually, looking at the Gateway DX110X

[link]

You can upgrade the video from integrated to an NVIDIA 7300LE for $60. The question is, is the NVIDIA 7300LE any good? The "LE" at the end means the performance has been downgraded in some way.


Betsy HP - Mar 30, 2006 8:00:52 am PST #7747 of 10003
If I only had a brain...

Second Life may not run on graphics/video cards other than the ones listed above. Unfortunately, if your graphics card includes any of the following words, it's NOT compatible with Second Life:

* nVidia cards that report as a RIVA TNT or TNT2 The following cards have not been tested with Second Life, and compatibility is not certain:

* nVidia cards that report as Quadro

How can I tell what a card reports as, for the love of Mike?


TomW - Mar 30, 2006 8:05:58 am PST #7748 of 10003
"The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be."

How can I tell what a card reports as, for the love of Mike?

If somebody sells you a computer with a TNT or TNT2, then report them to the Better Business Bureau. They are quite ancient and no new machine will have them.

Quadro cards are specifically for high-end graphics workstations. Again, unlikely that anybody would try to sell you that for a home machine. They're quite expensive.

Having said that, TNT and Quadro are names that would appear in the description of the "graphics" for a computer, if they applied. Which they won't.