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TomW - Mar 30, 2006 7:32:13 am PST #7736 of 10003
"The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be."

Dell has their "XPS" range, which is pitched at gamers. [link] I have to say that I haven't heard anything good about the XPS machines, and I have heard some very bad about them.

Alienware also pitch at gamers. [link] Their machines are wicked fast, but prone to noisiness. I have one under my desk at work. It's a tiny god, but I had to fiddle with it to make it quiet enough for a work machine. That may not be an issue with a home machine. I believe they have just been bought out by Dell. That may change their quality proposition.

HP probably has a machine that would do, but good luck finding it. It's probably called the z2345i. Not to be confused with the z2345j.

Gateway also has a series of gamer's machines: FX510. [link]

Everyone except for the real budget makers (like eMachines) should have something in their lineup that would do. Just keep an eye on the "graphics" line item. Anything that says "integrated" will be bad news.


Betsy HP - Mar 30, 2006 7:37:00 am PST #7737 of 10003
If I only had a brain...

That is an enormous help, Tom; thanks.


Dana - Mar 30, 2006 7:39:00 am PST #7738 of 10003
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Alienware has just been bought out by Dell, although the transaction isn't final yet.

Husband did a ton of research before we bought our new computer. Depending on how much you want to get into these things, he was very fond of tomshardware.com for reviews and comparisons.


TomW - Mar 30, 2006 7:44:17 am PST #7739 of 10003
"The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be."

Muesli to add that tommyrot is correct, the higher the number the better.

However, note the prefix. I believe that the X... cards from ATI are newer than 9... cards.

nVidia has a few ranges going at the moment. The GeForce 4/4mx cards are pretty old at this point. After that, I think you can identify the series based on the first number. GeForce FX starts with a 5, GeForce 6 with a 6 and GeForce 7 with a 7.

They then add all kinds of suffixes to confuse the issue and delight the compulsives.


Gudanov - Mar 30, 2006 7:47:37 am PST #7740 of 10003
Coding and Sleeping

You can get a basic Gateway DX110X and then install the graphics card.

Like this one: [link]

Or really any inexpensive computer with an available PCI-Express slot (The Gateway lists having one PCI-Ex16 slot free) and then disable the integrated video.

The problem is that you apparently need DirectX 9 support in the Video Card and integrated video is very unlikely to have that. But your processor requirements are pretty low, so to get a computer with a Video card that supports DX9 you'll probably have to pay a lot more since all the other components will be beefed up to.


TomW - Mar 30, 2006 7:48:37 am PST #7741 of 10003
"The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be."

My other recommendation would be not to skimp on the memory. I would put 512MB as the minimum and 1GB as recommended. It's relatively cheap and you get a good bang for your buck.


Betsy HP - Mar 30, 2006 7:52:10 am PST #7742 of 10003
If I only had a brain...

Over the years, we have learned that more memory is always worth it, and more disk often is.


Gudanov - Mar 30, 2006 7:52:19 am PST #7743 of 10003
Coding and Sleeping

You gotta look out for the letters after the numbers too. An ATI card that ends in "LE" is going to be a crippled version that costs less.


TomW - Mar 30, 2006 7:52:29 am PST #7744 of 10003
"The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be."

But your processor requirements are pretty low

You always want to overshoot the recommended specs, I think. I'm not saying that publishers lie through their teeth when they write them, but they certainly have a vested interest in not scaring people off.


Gudanov - Mar 30, 2006 7:55:11 am PST #7745 of 10003
Coding and Sleeping

I don't think you can buy a new computer that isn't going to overshoot the processor spec.