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Gandalfe - Feb 07, 2005 8:06:07 am PST #1599 of 10003
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

I got in just fine.


Jessica - Feb 07, 2005 8:11:44 am PST #1600 of 10003
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I finally got in, after 4 hours of server errors. Sadly, nobody was trying desperately to get in touch with me.


tommyrot - Feb 07, 2005 1:57:06 pm PST #1601 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

For ita and other interested folk:

re: Viewsonic VX2000 LCD DVI monitors -

an incompatibility exists between VX2000 series monitors and NVidia 52xx and 56xx video cards when connected via DVI.

Apparantly the Windows driver has a workaround, but Linux users are SOL:

Known WINDOZE XP workaround: After many calls to Viewsonic I was able to get through to a sane engineer. He was able to reproduce the problem and found a workaround in Windows. That workaround was to change the timing from "Auto" to "DMT" (Discrete Monitor Timing) and to enable Horizontal Cloning. After that was done the card seemed to remember those settings and I could leave it on the DVI connector and actually be able to see my text consoles and POST screens etc...

[link]

Doesn't really help me, as the Mac Mini uses "ATI Radeon 9200 with 32MB of DDR SDRAM with AGP 4X support"

ita, what graphics card are you using?


DCJensen - Feb 07, 2005 2:27:54 pm PST #1602 of 10003
All is well that ends in pizza.

Doesn't really help me, as the Mac Mini uses "ATI Radeon 9200 with 32MB of DDR SDRAM with AGP 4X support"

What version of the ATI Radeon driver are you using, Tommyrot?

If the Mac Minis have been sitting in a warehouse, they might not have the November update: [link]


Rob - Feb 07, 2005 2:37:55 pm PST #1603 of 10003

The issue is probably related to two different styles of digital signaling used in digital displays. Tom's Hardware discusses it here in reference to various video cards you can buy and how well they work with digital displays. In particular, this page discusses the differences.


tommyrot - Feb 07, 2005 2:38:32 pm PST #1604 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

What version of the ATI Radeon driver are you using, Tommyrot?

I'll check when I get home. I've been poking around at the ATI site myself.

Apparantly there's the "ATI Displays control pannel" that I should have (Unless I don't have it because the graphics chip is built-in and not an add-in card?)

I should be able to install that new driver, right? I mean, it shouldn't make any difference that the graphics chip is built-in, and not a card, right?


meara - Feb 07, 2005 2:40:14 pm PST #1605 of 10003

Oof, good luck, Tommy!

Question for y'all: Just got a warning in the mail that the warranty on my Powerbook is about to be over, and did I want to buy the extra two years of AppleCare? It's $350, which seems like a heck of a lot, but I suppose if the thing goes to hell, would seem cheap. So, um, do people think it's necessary? I'm the sort of person who tends to not go for that, and worry about problems if/when they come, but....


Rob - Feb 07, 2005 2:41:25 pm PST #1606 of 10003

The drivers you download from ATI's website are only for cards you buy at retail. Apple delivers updated drivers for the built-in and bundled cards as part of system software updates.


DCJensen - Feb 07, 2005 2:43:02 pm PST #1607 of 10003
All is well that ends in pizza.

Well, it does say it requires "October 2004 ATI RADEON Universal ROM Update or higher for full advanced feature-set"

Might want to check the revision, first.

Still? Worth emailing ATI support.

ETA: Rob, it does say it supports "Apple OEM/CTO RADEON Products

  • All Apple desktop and portable systems with preinstalled RADEON graphics"


DCJensen - Feb 07, 2005 2:46:46 pm PST #1608 of 10003
All is well that ends in pizza.

The issue I'd have is "this is a new product, might not be covered under two-month-old documents."