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Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 28, 2004 11:35:51 am PST #489 of 3486
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

But if the latter is flexible enough, she has the right coloring to play Wonder Woman's magic lasso.

Did anyone publicly object to Berry as Catwomen due to her race? I'd have thought Eartha Kitt would have settled any question of that decades ago—I still think of her rather than Newmar, Meriweather, or even Pfeiffer in the role.


le nubian - Dec 28, 2004 11:44:07 am PST #490 of 3486
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I don't think Berry had any objections, but I've never seen a Black Wonder Woman before.


Frankenbuddha - Dec 28, 2004 11:49:00 am PST #491 of 3486
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Did anyone publicly object to Berry as Catwomen due to her race? I'd have thought Eartha Kitt would have settled any question of that decades ago—I still think of her rather than Newmar, Meriweather, or even Pfeiffer in the role.

I think, Halle-as-actress objections aside, the biggest ruckus was over the fact that the character in the movie bore no relationship to anything remotely connected with the character. I mean Tim Burton took a lot of liberties with the characters vs. the comics, but not to that level.


victor infante - Dec 28, 2004 1:45:52 pm PST #492 of 3486
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

I don't think Berry had any objections, but I've never seen a Black Wonder Woman before.

Yeah, but it's not like it's a character that's been played a lot--Linda Carter, sure, but not much beyond the old TV show.

They cast a black Wonder Woman, I sincerely doubt there'll be a ruckus, so long as it's a good actress (like Torres) and a team people are excited about (like Whedon and Silverman.)


P.M. Marc - Dec 28, 2004 3:00:40 pm PST #493 of 3486
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Torres would rock. She's got the build and the right sort of feel for the part.

Did anyone publicly object to Berry as Catwomen due to her race? I'd have thought Eartha Kitt would have settled any question of that decades ago—I still think of her rather than Newmar, Meriweather, or even Pfeiffer in the role.

I don't think I saw any complaints. I've seen a couple of stupid complaints re: Fantastic Four casting, but I think those were all from the losers at the John Byrne board, or from Byrne himself.


§ ita § - Dec 28, 2004 3:03:11 pm PST #494 of 3486
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

What were the comments? I'm not enthused by the casting myself.


DXMachina - Dec 28, 2004 3:10:40 pm PST #495 of 3486
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

I'm not enthused by the casting myself.

Neither am I. I like Ioan Gruffudd, but he's way too young to be Reed Richards. And Jessica Alba as Sue Storm?


P.M. Marc - Dec 28, 2004 3:25:34 pm PST #496 of 3486
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

What were the comments?

I can't recall exactly, because it was around the time where Byrne was saying (WRT Jessica Alba) that dark skinned women with bleached hair all look like call girls, and thus my THE FUCK??!? circuits had shorted out. Basic minor griping about casting Kerry Washington as Alicia Masters and wondering if it was because the powers that be felt they needed more non-white people in the movie.


§ ita § - Dec 28, 2004 3:48:42 pm PST #497 of 3486
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

dark skinned women with bleached hair all look like call girls

I can see as how I mightn't have made it past this point.


P.M. Marc - Dec 28, 2004 4:01:17 pm PST #498 of 3486
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I can see as how I mightn't have made it past this point.

Yeah, I think between that and the claim that women just ain't wired right to be able to understand comics, Byrne was going for 2004's Most Offensive Human Alive award.