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§ ita § - Sep 20, 2012 5:03:38 am PDT #3373 of 3486
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Are these spoilers or speculation?


Typo Boy - Sep 20, 2012 3:32:21 pm PDT #3374 of 3486
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

They are based on source material. So there is a better chance of them being real than something just off the top of my head. In general if a series is based on source material, even though it is always speculative that the source material will end in the series, I assumed that it constitutes a spoiler. Maybe I'm wrong. For me I've never been fond of how spoiler phobic we are, but it is the culture so I try to comply.


Typo Boy - Sep 20, 2012 3:42:50 pm PDT #3375 of 3486
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

To be clear - the alien superbeing as creating the situation is a spoiler. And like many spoilers not absolutely certain. A spoiler leaked by the show-runner may be a foiler. In my case the show may not go the same place as the source material. But definitely in the source material the ultimate explanation was "alien superbeing".

The rest is speculation based on that spoiler. Calling the superbeing 'Q' is just me being a smartass. But the 'alien superbeing' thing was in the source material of the source material.


§ ita § - Sep 20, 2012 6:54:40 pm PDT #3376 of 3486
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I thought that it was stated that this isn't related to the Emberverse. Can you point me to the cite?


Typo Boy - Sep 20, 2012 8:49:36 pm PDT #3377 of 3486
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

This isn't related to the Emberverse? Sorry I had the impression from discussion that it was. If the series is not related to the emberverse then the post is completely wrong. It is not even good speculation cause it is based on Revolution being derived from the Emberverse. I got the impression from the boxed set discussion that the Emberverse was the source material for this. Should I delete?


§ ita § - Sep 21, 2012 6:43:52 am PDT #3378 of 3486
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I have never seen a shred of show-related material that said it was, and only people saying it's not. Which is why I'm trying to chase down this idea it is to a source. If I can find that, I'll correct myself, but I've seen nothing but "I think" and "it seems" so far. The premises have been stated to be explicitly different¹, and I'm not sure why people are drawing such bold lines between them.

¹: Guns, for starters.


Kristen - Sep 21, 2012 1:47:55 pm PDT #3379 of 3486

I think the credits read "Created by Eric Kripke," which would mean it's not based on any underlying source material.


§ ita § - Sep 22, 2012 5:47:15 am PDT #3380 of 3486
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Kristen, I just had the worst argument with someone who said the Teen Wolf show wasn't based on the movie, and I couldn't tell him that neither of us got a vote here. It's not following many of the plot points, but then again, neither does Buffy, really. It does share an elevator pitch and some character names, but legally, it's the same property. They took the concept, ran with it, and tossed out easter eggs as he went.

But this guy lives to argue, and first said they weren't related, and I think his final reply that I'm not reading because I am seriously out of the conversation is that the legal relationship and sharing an elevator pitch and character names isn't enough. Again--the IO9 article had tons of TV shows that don't really resemble the movies (they're certainly not both canon), so he has a bug up his ass probably created by teenagers enjoying the show + the idea of getting my goat.

Pfft.

Puny humans.


§ ita § - Oct 01, 2012 4:34:54 pm PDT #3381 of 3486
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Casting call for hot, fit, identical male twins for Teen Wolf (ALPHAS, BEEYOTCHES): [link]

There's also a side there:

INT. HIGH SCHOOL/LOCKER ROOM - DAY
Among the students change for gym class, Ethan takes a seat
next to his brother, Aiden, at one of the locker benches.
ETHAN
You’re starting to like her.
AIDEN
How would you know?
ETHAN
Your eyes dilate when you look at
her.
AIDEN
My eyes what?
ETHAN
Dilate. It’s a marker for sexual
attraction.
AIDEN
Where do you even read this crap?
ETHAN
Norepinephrine secreted during
attraction flexes the dilator
muscles--
AIDEN
Okay, shut up. It’s bad enough I’m
back in eight hours a day of high
school. I don’t need a Chemistry
lesson from my brother.
ETHAN
Biology.
AIDEN
Whatever.
ETHAN
You’re not supposed to like her.
AIDEN
So what if I do?
ETHAN
Then you’re an idiot. Because if
this all goes the way we think it’s
going, we’re going to have to kill
her.
And it’s not going to be push her
down a flight of stairs kill her.
It’s going to be claw out her
throat and watch a geyser of blood
stream out of her neck kill her.
You ready for that?
Aiden holds still a moment, considering it. Then turns to his
brother with as cold-hearted a stare as he can manage.
AIDEN
If I have to... I’ll rip her pretty
little head off.


sumi - Oct 12, 2012 5:51:40 am PDT #3382 of 3486
Art Crawl!!!

Teen Wolf: No more Jackson? Contract negotiations failed and apparently, Colton Haynes will nto be back in season 3.