I don't fancy spending the next month trying to get librarian out of the carpet.

Spike ,'Chosen'


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Morgana - Jan 09, 2011 4:44:48 pm PST #2940 of 3486
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

Changing Channels is one of my favourite episodes of the series, not just the season, and I found The Real Ghostbusters quite entertaining.

That's the point in conversation where I generally shrug at people and say "if we all agreed on every point there wouldn't be anything to talk about." Because really, how boring would it be if we all agreed on everything?

Also, if you're mad that Genevieve is appearing for any reason other than you don't like her acting, I'm probably not listening to you either.

I don't think I've seen anyone complaining about her presence as a person, although I have seen people who've stated that they didn't like her portrayal of Ruby 2.0.

plus I like them so much more than clip shows

It's never occurred to me before that SPN has never inflicted a clip show on us. Most genre shows do at some point or another, don't they? Maybe we should send them a fruit basket or something to thank them.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 10, 2011 5:32:12 am PST #2941 of 3486
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I don't think I've seen anyone complaining about her presence as a person, although I have seen people who've stated that they didn't like her portrayal of Ruby 2.0.

I wasn't that thrilled with her portrayal of Ruby, but I would assume that her above-and-beyond Method research for the role of Genevieve will result in a more convincing performance.


§ ita § - Jan 10, 2011 7:10:26 am PST #2942 of 3486
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't think I've seen anyone complaining about her presence as a person

You're lucky. I've seen so much. It's all meta shenanigans and tinhat complaining.


askye - Jan 11, 2011 12:54:42 pm PST #2943 of 3486
Thrive to spite them

I've fallen behind on SPN again and I don't follow the fannish parts that much (except reading fic) BUT What you are describing reminds me of some of the reactions I read about Angel.

In particular there was one woman I knew through an IRC group (same one I met Dan through btw) who hated Angel. She's get on chat and talk about how much she hated it and yet every week she watched it.

She said she had to complete anything she started -she started watching Buffy and Angel and she was going to finish watching the series even if she hated it.

Which is something I don't get at all but I guess there some people who feel they've invested so much time to something that even after they don't like it, they'd rather make themselves miserable than "give up".


§ ita § - Jan 11, 2011 2:07:32 pm PST #2944 of 3486
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I watch stuff I don't like, but I'd like to believe I'm quieter about it. I've stopped chasing people down to tell them how much Temperance Brennan annoys me, and I'll only mention my VD issues when someone else brings up the topic.

Watching a show where I was invested and the last two seasons have caused me emotional pain...I don't think it's going to get any better, guys. And the way these people complain, I do mean pain. VD doesn't bother me. I just don't think it's good. There's a difference.


Morgana - Jan 11, 2011 5:21:57 pm PST #2945 of 3486
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

I guess there some people who feel they've invested so much time to something that even after they don't like it, they'd rather make themselves miserable than "give up".

Oh hell no. I've given myself permission to abandon shows that frustrate me that much -- Lost, Heroes, and House to name a few. Why spend the time and equilibrium on something that gives me no enjoyment in return?


le nubian - Jan 11, 2011 5:30:37 pm PST #2946 of 3486
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Except for Lost, I'm with you on the other two. It actually felt good to bail on Heroes and House and (whisper) Bones.


Stephanie - Jan 11, 2011 5:32:35 pm PST #2947 of 3486
Trust my rage

Apparently I am morgana because I have given up that exact group of shows nAnd Bones.


§ ita § - Jan 11, 2011 6:13:30 pm PST #2948 of 3486
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Why spend the time and equilibrium on something that gives me no enjoyment in return?

Dude. At least VD gives me Damon/Alaric. Shipping that might never get old.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 11, 2011 6:25:08 pm PST #2949 of 3486
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I wasn't able to make myself pull the plug on Angel in mid Season 3 or Buffy once Season 7 started taking a nosedive, but those shows had a stronger hold on me than anything before or since and I learned from the pain. Lost, Heroes, Grey's Anatomy, and Stargate: Universe all got the boot as soon as the annoyance exceeded the entertainment value.