I don't think I've seen anyone complaining about her presence as a person
You're lucky. I've seen so much. It's all meta shenanigans and tinhat complaining.
Wash: I'm not leaving her side, Mal. Don't ask me again. Mal: I wasn't asking. I was telling.
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§ ita § - Jan 10, 2011 7:10:26 am PST #2942 of 3486
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
askye - Jan 11, 2011 12:54:42 pm PST #2943 of 3486
Thrive to spite them
I've fallen behind on SPN again and I don't follow the fannish parts that much (except reading fic) BUT What you are describing reminds me of some of the reactions I read about Angel.
In particular there was one woman I knew through an IRC group (same one I met Dan through btw) who hated Angel. She's get on chat and talk about how much she hated it and yet every week she watched it.
She said she had to complete anything she started -she started watching Buffy and Angel and she was going to finish watching the series even if she hated it.
Which is something I don't get at all but I guess there some people who feel they've invested so much time to something that even after they don't like it, they'd rather make themselves miserable than "give up".
§ ita § - Jan 11, 2011 2:07:32 pm PST #2944 of 3486
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I watch stuff I don't like, but I'd like to believe I'm quieter about it. I've stopped chasing people down to tell them how much Temperance Brennan annoys me, and I'll only mention my VD issues when someone else brings up the topic.
Watching a show where I was invested and the last two seasons have caused me emotional pain...I don't think it's going to get any better, guys. And the way these people complain, I do mean pain. VD doesn't bother me. I just don't think it's good. There's a difference.
Morgana - Jan 11, 2011 5:21:57 pm PST #2945 of 3486
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber
I guess there some people who feel they've invested so much time to something that even after they don't like it, they'd rather make themselves miserable than "give up".
Oh hell no. I've given myself permission to abandon shows that frustrate me that much -- Lost, Heroes, and House to name a few. Why spend the time and equilibrium on something that gives me no enjoyment in return?
le nubian - Jan 11, 2011 5:30:37 pm PST #2946 of 3486
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
Except for Lost, I'm with you on the other two. It actually felt good to bail on Heroes and House and (whisper) Bones.
Stephanie - Jan 11, 2011 5:32:35 pm PST #2947 of 3486
Trust my rage
Apparently I am morgana because I have given up that exact group of shows nAnd Bones.
§ ita § - Jan 11, 2011 6:13:30 pm PST #2948 of 3486
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Why spend the time and equilibrium on something that gives me no enjoyment in return?
Dude. At least VD gives me Damon/Alaric. Shipping that might never get old.
Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 11, 2011 6:25:08 pm PST #2949 of 3486
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
I wasn't able to make myself pull the plug on Angel in mid Season 3 or Buffy once Season 7 started taking a nosedive, but those shows had a stronger hold on me than anything before or since and I learned from the pain. Lost, Heroes, Grey's Anatomy, and Stargate: Universe all got the boot as soon as the annoyance exceeded the entertainment value.
Juliebird - Jan 16, 2011 1:28:34 pm PST #2950 of 3486
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
Anne W. - Jan 16, 2011 2:42:12 pm PST #2951 of 3486
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, that made my week, Juliebird.