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Spoilers 3: First Mutant Enemy, Now the World

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Jessica - Mar 13, 2007 10:22:54 am PDT #1867 of 3486
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

So, all that said, here are some of my thoughts.

The Final Four are all the leaders of the resistance on New Caprica, minus Roslin. I do not think this is a coincidence. Is Roslin the Fifth? (Points in her favor include being the remaining Resistance leader, and her shared dream/projection with Sharon and Six. Points against her are that I don't think Cylons can get cancer.)

The Final Four were activated by a song from Earth. I can't remember another instance of hearing a real-life pop song on this show, and I do not think that that is a coincidence either. Does it tell us what year it is on Earth now? What year it was on Earth when these four were dispatched?

I think D'eanna must have been apologizing to Tigh in the temple, for pulling out his eye.


Topic!Cindy - Mar 13, 2007 10:34:26 am PDT #1868 of 3486
What is even happening?

I wouldn't think Cylons could get cancer, but I also wouldn't think they could get pregnant, or that Cylon-human hybrid baby blood would send cancer into remission.

I think D'eanna must have been apologizing to Tigh in the temple, for pulling out his eye.
That seems likely.

It also seems really likely to me that Starbuck is a Cylon. She did not pull that ejector handle (imo, that shot was to show us that she decided against it). Her ship went boom. I don't know.

This sounds so awesome, though. It's way better than what I was fearing/imagining. I love spoilers.

So -- there was no Perry Mason moment with Gaeta being revealed to be a Cylon in the courtroom? That is one of the foilers out there.


Jessica - Mar 13, 2007 10:40:38 am PDT #1869 of 3486
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

So -- there was no Perry Mason moment with Gaeta being revealed to be a Cylon in the courtroom? That is one of the foilers out there.

Heh - no, that one's a foiler.

Oh, I almost forgot! Dee leaves Lee after he officially becomes one of Baltar's lawyers. (Guess he wasn't quite as much like the old man as she'd hoped...)


Topic!Cindy - Mar 13, 2007 10:41:33 am PDT #1870 of 3486
What is even happening?

Thank goodness that's over. That relationship never clicked for me, at all.


Nutty - Mar 13, 2007 11:02:13 am PDT #1871 of 3486
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I think that Bob Dylan is the fifth Cylon. I mean, right??

(Please tell me they used the Hendrix version of the song.)


Laura - Mar 13, 2007 11:44:19 am PDT #1872 of 3486
Our wings are not tired.

Please tell me they used the Hendrix version of the song

Yes, please.

Wow! Thank you, Jessica! I don't have enough !!! available.

Indeed it didn't seem likely we had seen the last of Kara. I'm looking forward to seeing Lee and Baltar break out of their ruts.

Eeeep, I have to read again because I read so quickly...


le nubian - Mar 13, 2007 12:05:47 pm PDT #1873 of 3486
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Jessica,

what a STRAIGHT UP AWESOME narrative. I have had the most tiring week and you rock hard! Thanks so much. That is totally awesome. I can't wait to watch these eps.


Jessica - Mar 13, 2007 12:09:57 pm PDT #1874 of 3486
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

(Please tell me they used the Hendrix version of the song.)

On the temp track at least, it's a cover version I didn't recognize. I don't know what they'll end up using for the broadcast. (They may also replace it entirely, but then the lines that Tyrol, Sam and Tori recite won't really make sense.)

(PS, spoiler feedback is TEH BEST CRACK EVAR. I'd almost forgotten how much fun spoiling is! Silly me!)


Topic!Cindy - Mar 13, 2007 12:16:43 pm PDT #1875 of 3486
What is even happening?

Spoilers are also teh best crack evar. I don't know why I gave up spoiling.

Jess, you did an awesome job with that. I feel like I have to read it all through again too, like Laura. Each time one of your posts ended, I felt the same way I do after an awesome cliff hanger.

What did you like best about it? Also? Do the four (Tigh, Anders, Tori, and Chief) seem like they really didn't know they were Cylons? I mean -- is their shock real.


Jessica - Mar 13, 2007 12:26:07 pm PDT #1876 of 3486
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Do the four (Tigh, Anders, Tori, and Chief) seem like they really didn't know they were Cylons? I mean -- is their shock real.

Oh, it's very real. At the end of the ep, they're all still in shock, and not a small amount of denial. Unlike Boomer, who was activated to do something (she didn't know for sure she was a Cylon until she shot Adama), these four seem to have simply been switched on. They know they're Cylons, but they don't know why. They don't know what they've been programmed for, why they were placed in the fleet, or why they've been activated now. So they're all not only freaked out that they're Cylons, they're freaked out that they might be programmed to sabotage the fleet in ways they're not aware of yet.

I think the Final Five might be a Cylon splinter group with a completely separate agenda from the other 7. It's just a hunch, but I can't shake the feeling that 4/5 (at least) of them being the leaders of the human resistance on New Caprica is significant. That they have a different plan, and that it's somehow connected to Earth.

What did you like best about it?

The editing. The construction of the narrative, especially of the second half, is pure brilliance, the way it builds.