But when Jin pulled out the huge diamond after just finishing agreeing to work with Pops, Sun must have known it was going to take more than 2 years of 40 hours/week labor to cover that.

But when Jin pulled out the huge diamond after just finishing agreeing to work with Pops, Sun must have known it was going to take more than 2 years of 40 hours/week labor to cover that.

I'd guess that was the beginning of her, "Huh, seems fishy, but LA LA LA LA I'm in loooooove!!" Which didn't last forever, but love makes you do ... well, you know.

Coming over from WX -- a black bear would be much less likely to eat people than a polar bear.

Did he become more jealous and possessive over the course of their marriage, or does he feel that being her husband gives him the right to tell her how to dress now, or does he think he's just being a good, protective husband in this strange new situation?

This is what I thought happened. Jin seemed to have a strong sense of honor going in (not wanting to sneak away to get married, etc.), as well as ambition and a lot of self-confidence, and it all got twisted by the work he was doing for Jin's father. I think being so controlling with Jin and going ballistic over the symbol of Jin's father were all symptoms of how far gone he was.

Where did you see or read Singapore? I just assumed LA.

I heard something in the airport about "Oceanic Airlines flight whatever, leaving for Singapore". I guess I just assumed it was their flight (maybe with a stop before heading to the US).

As for SunDaddy - Personally, I think he maybe does own some factories and probably that's what he told Jin in the beginning. Maybe Jin even worked there for a while. Also, I had the impression that Sun wanted to get away from her dad because he was such a controlling person - she knew they would never be free of him as long as they stayed. Just my opinions, though.

I was also worried about the puppy/dog and hope that woman does go take care of him.

Also, assuming Sun and Jin really are Korean (which we know they are, right? It sure sounds like Korean), my guess is they were living there and got sent to Australia for some reason. Since the dog was with Sun when she spoke to that woman, that must have been back in their home, in Korea. Maybe she went on the trip with Jin and was planning her escape for the way home.

I think being so controlling with Jin and going ballistic over the symbol of Jin's father were all symptoms of how far gone he was.

My assumption after seeing the ep last night is that Jin was so possessive because he himself has 1 or 2 women on the side. I don't think it would be that uncommon given the kind of work he did.

I heard something in the airport about "Oceanic Airlines flight whatever, leaving for Singapore".

I think that was a final boarding call for another flight.

I think that was a final boarding call for another flight.

Now that I think about it, I think that makes more sense.

I wonder why Jack is being set up as the leader. On the positive side, he's relatively fearless, he will attack a situation with a will and a modicum of care, so that may be why. But dude, how clueless can you be? Kate's all coming on to him and he's all, "blah blah caves, blah blah dig in, blah blah, set up new society, work hard, build empire, make computers and palm pilots out of coconuts and black and white stones."

I do think it's odd that Kate is with the group that's hoping for rescue, since that could potentially lead to her re-arrest. If the marshall was, in fact, a government agent of some sort and she really was under arrest, rather than him being a bounty hunter or PI sent by an ex-husband to fetch her back, or something along those lines. But I get the feeling that she might have wound up with the group at the caves if Jack had responded to her attempts at mild seduction.

And I definitely got the feeling that one of the reasons Sun was in love with Jin was that he could take her away from her father and his business.

did he really believe that he could do "a year of management training and a year in the factory" (or whatever the times actually were, I'm probably remembering the lines wrong) and then get out of the business? Or did he not know what the business really was?

I think it's entirely possible, even probable, that SunDaddy has "a" factory, probably more than one. That he would have started Jin in management training for the factory, and then offered him jobs on the side as a "personal favor," each increasingly brutal and more compromising to Jin's sense of right. It's the way mob bosses operate world over, right?

It's been a while since I've been this impressed with a tv show. All the actors are doing lovely, nuanced work. But they're given wonderful stuff to do, and enough time onscreen to do the text justice. Not only that, but there don't seem to be any dead spots in the cast. Scenes that each of the characters have with O'Quinn, for example--he gives so much back, he's so present in his scenes, even if he doesn't have a line. This show is so richly textured, so layered. I'm wallowing around in it like a pig in mud. Even moreso since it looks like THIS one isn't going to be cancelled. YAY!

When it took so long for Sayid and Sawyer to rush in and rescue Michael, my first thought was, "Bet they were off doing their own rolling around in the sand, but with slightly more sex and slightly less punching."

This is totally Dana's fault.

I am so not the only person thinking it.

I should hate Sawyer, I know. I'm totally powerless against the grin and the dimples.

The actress playing Sun was wonderful last night, although I thought it was one of the weaker episodes so far.