You're talking to Serenity. And, Early... Serenity is very unhappy.

River ,'Objects In Space'


Lost: OMGWTF POLAR BEAR  

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tavella - Apr 01, 2005 7:26:57 am PST #7275 of 10000
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists.

What worries me is I'm afraid the producers may be seeing Jack in spy/cowboy-vision, where the "good" protagonist is good because he's the main character rather than because he's someone who actually behaves in a moral manner. And never gets called on it. I would have liked that scene between him and Kate much better if she'd been somewhat disgusted and said "so your Hippocratic Oath doesn't matter, but impressing me does? What happens if someone you don't like gets sick and I'm not around to show off for?"

I wasn't bugged by it, because my impression was that Jack's resolve to not be the Good Doctor lasted only a few seconds once he saw Sawyer actually in distress; if he was doing it just for Kate, he would have agreed up at the caves. Instead, he told Kate he wasn't going to approach him, but then actually did it when not in front of Kate; if he was doing it 'for Kate', then I'd expect the reverse.

Also, I think this methodology of dealing with Sawyer shows a lot of promise. Sawyer's a huge problem; he has to be dealt with, because he's exactly the sort of person that can trigger the descent into Lord of the Flies-land. So far they've tried torture, which didn't work. Being sweet to Sawyer, which not only didn't work but triggered his 'I'll make them see how shitty I am, I'll demand sexual favors!' reaction. Pure alpha confrontation (the briefcase) which did work but required Jack to take serious leave of his Hippocratic oath.

Everyone working together to help him and thus making him part of the team/society, but at the same time with enough mocking to not trigger his 'everyone needs to hate me so I'll do something really vicious!' reaction seems to have strong possibilities. We'll see how well it works when the next crisis hits.


Rick - Apr 01, 2005 8:23:40 am PST #7276 of 10000

But it is required for her logistically and Catholically to be a womb worthy of god, a second Eve (also congenitally sin free).

This confused me even as a child. God arranged for Mary to be born free of sin even though her parents were sinners. If this is possible, then why bother making Mary immaculate? Just give Jesus a tin-foil hat or something to protect him from her sinful womb. Maybe reverse the womb polarity and add some Tachyon pulses just to be sure.


DavidS - Apr 01, 2005 8:39:33 am PST #7277 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

This confused me even as a child.

It's ecunemical handwaving, Rick. Forget it. t /Chinatown


Jessica - Apr 01, 2005 8:57:34 am PST #7278 of 10000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Just give Jesus a tin-foil hat or something to protect him from her sinful womb.

As someone who hopes to give birth someday, allow me to say OW.


Zenkitty - Apr 01, 2005 9:27:01 am PST #7279 of 10000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I thought Jack dealt with Sawyer's refusal to be treated very effectively. Sawyer doesn't just want to be hated; he wants people to come after him to try to be good to him so he can hurt them and drive them off. When Jack bypasses all this by saying "Fine, die of a brain tumor" and walking off, Sawyer says, "oh, okay, you can help me, since you obviously don't care and thus can't be manipulated." This happened like three times in this episode. Jack asked, Sawyer blocked, Jack shrugged and walked off, and then Sawyer gave in and answered. It was funny, and totally in character for both of them. IMHO

Locke at the end, pounding on the door and wailing, "I've done everything you wanted! Why won't you love me?!" was very sad. He's having bad-daddy issues with the damn Island.


Laura - Apr 01, 2005 9:52:13 am PST #7280 of 10000
Our wings are not tired.

Locke at the end, pounding on the door and wailing, "I've done everything you wanted! Why won't you love me?!" was very sad. He's having bad-daddy issues with the damn Island.

Really. I was not only ready to go and kick his sorry excuse for parents' asses, but was furious at the island for treating him badly too.

Here is a character with such a pathetic backstory with the sad phone sex, horrible childhood, sicko parents, and office job from hell. Yet he is an awesome powerful Big Man On Island. Locke just makes me giddy.


Nutty - Apr 01, 2005 9:59:19 am PST #7281 of 10000
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I am cherishing the idea of someone opening the hatch, sticking his uncombed head out, and shouting, "Oi! What's the big idea? Some of us are trying to sleep! If you want an appointment, come back in the morning!"


Una - Apr 01, 2005 10:44:35 am PST #7282 of 10000
when i die, please bake my ashes into a brick and use me to hit fascists.

So you mean that Immaculate Conception doesn't refer to the fact that she didn't have sex with Joseph, but that *she* was immaculate, yes?

Right. As everyone managed to explain fairly well while the pedantic Catholic was working in her lab... *slinks away again*


Dana - Apr 01, 2005 1:51:11 pm PST #7283 of 10000
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Okay, the little montage with Sayid building glasses for Sawyer? How cute was that?


sumi - Apr 01, 2005 2:26:12 pm PST #7284 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

That was very cute.