I'll tell you how that would work: every female viewer with an ounce of self-respect turning on the character.
Don't try to tell me how much self-respect I have.
Everything looks good from here... Yes. Yes, this is a fertile land, and we will thrive. We will rule over all this land, and we will call it... 'This Land.' I think we should call it 'your grave!' Ah, curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal! Ha ha HA! Mine is an evil laugh! Now die! Oh, no, God! Oh, dear God in heaven!
Wash ,'Serenity'
Lost: OMGWTF POLAR BEAR
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Jessica - Mar 16, 2005 8:30:58 am PST #7069 of 10000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
tavella - Mar 16, 2005 9:02:09 am PST #7070 of 10000
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists.
I'd like to see him sitting in a chair, getting his beard shaved and his laundry washed and some other girl cooking his dinner.
The moment they turn one of the characters into (or add a new character to be) Sawyer's personal mama-san, I'm so done with this show. It's already rather imbalanced in terms of female characters -- only four of them, and none of them really breaking that far from cliche. It's why I was so disappointed when Claire's brief moment of independence in Homecoming vanished under Charlie's psuedomacho outburst of bullets and she's back to "Charlie! You're so dreamy!"
This doesn't mean a female character has to be ubermacho -- I actually enjoy the way that Sun manages to be quietly independent while not being so far from tradition. She didn't go ask anyone whether she should start a garden, she didn't go ask Jack or Sayid or anyone for aprobation, she just judged the situation and started planting. Yes, a traditional female role but I think the independence is in the thought, not the action.
Lee - Mar 16, 2005 9:06:37 am PST #7071 of 10000
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
Leaving the other stuff aside, is it wrong that I think it might be kind of hot to see Kate or Sun (or better yet, Sayid), shaving Sawyer?
§ ita § - Mar 16, 2005 9:10:26 am PST #7072 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
is it wrong that I think it might be kind of hot to see Kate or Sun (or better yet, Sayid), shaving Sawyer?
Is it a straight razor?
::mmmm::
tiggy - Mar 16, 2005 9:13:17 am PST #7073 of 10000
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore
I'll tell you how that would work: every female viewer with an ounce of self-respect turning on the character.
yeah, ummm...except when i read that i was liking Josh's train of thought. i'd like to see Kate get a taste of her own manipulation skills.
Scrappy - Mar 16, 2005 9:13:50 am PST #7074 of 10000
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
Wait a second, Bank Robber is too close to cliche? Girl who lived with a guy and got pregnant and had to be talked into staying pregnant then went to scary psychic is too close to a cliche? Shannon is the most clicheed character, IMO, and the least interesting, but I don't find the other three close to cliches, unless you define clicheed women's roles incredibly broadly, like "unmarried and pregnant".
JenP - Mar 16, 2005 9:25:55 am PST #7075 of 10000
Is it a straight razor?
Yes. And thank god for the... old-fashioned barber shop supplies smugglers.
beathen - Mar 16, 2005 9:30:29 am PST #7076 of 10000
Sure I went over to the Dark Side, but just to pick up a few things.
That joke will never die.
JenP - Mar 16, 2005 9:32:23 am PST #7077 of 10000
(Sorry. I often can't help myself.)
§ ita § - Mar 16, 2005 9:33:17 am PST #7078 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
If it's a straight razor, it almost doesn't matter who's wielding it -- those things are hawt.
Still, I have my preferences, and Sayid is definitely one.