I'll tell you how that would work: every female viewer with an ounce of self-respect turning on the character.
Don't try to tell me how much self-respect I have.
Spike: We got a history, him and me. Fred: What? Spike: It was a long time ago. He was a young Watcher, fresh out of the academy when we crossed paths. It was a, what-you-call battle of wills and blood was spilled. Vendettas were sworn. It was a whole-- Fred: My God you're so full of crap. Spike: Yeah. Okay.
'Unleashed'
Lost: OMGWTF POLAR BEAR
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Jessica - Mar 16, 2005 8:30:58 am PST #7069 of 10000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
tavella - Mar 16, 2005 9:02:09 am PST #7070 of 10000
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists.
I'd like to see him sitting in a chair, getting his beard shaved and his laundry washed and some other girl cooking his dinner.
The moment they turn one of the characters into (or add a new character to be) Sawyer's personal mama-san, I'm so done with this show. It's already rather imbalanced in terms of female characters -- only four of them, and none of them really breaking that far from cliche. It's why I was so disappointed when Claire's brief moment of independence in Homecoming vanished under Charlie's psuedomacho outburst of bullets and she's back to "Charlie! You're so dreamy!"
This doesn't mean a female character has to be ubermacho -- I actually enjoy the way that Sun manages to be quietly independent while not being so far from tradition. She didn't go ask anyone whether she should start a garden, she didn't go ask Jack or Sayid or anyone for aprobation, she just judged the situation and started planting. Yes, a traditional female role but I think the independence is in the thought, not the action.
Lee - Mar 16, 2005 9:06:37 am PST #7071 of 10000
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
Leaving the other stuff aside, is it wrong that I think it might be kind of hot to see Kate or Sun (or better yet, Sayid), shaving Sawyer?
§ ita § - Mar 16, 2005 9:10:26 am PST #7072 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
is it wrong that I think it might be kind of hot to see Kate or Sun (or better yet, Sayid), shaving Sawyer?
Is it a straight razor?
::mmmm::
tiggy - Mar 16, 2005 9:13:17 am PST #7073 of 10000
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore
I'll tell you how that would work: every female viewer with an ounce of self-respect turning on the character.
yeah, ummm...except when i read that i was liking Josh's train of thought. i'd like to see Kate get a taste of her own manipulation skills.
Scrappy - Mar 16, 2005 9:13:50 am PST #7074 of 10000
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
Wait a second, Bank Robber is too close to cliche? Girl who lived with a guy and got pregnant and had to be talked into staying pregnant then went to scary psychic is too close to a cliche? Shannon is the most clicheed character, IMO, and the least interesting, but I don't find the other three close to cliches, unless you define clicheed women's roles incredibly broadly, like "unmarried and pregnant".
JenP - Mar 16, 2005 9:25:55 am PST #7075 of 10000
Is it a straight razor?
Yes. And thank god for the... old-fashioned barber shop supplies smugglers.
beathen - Mar 16, 2005 9:30:29 am PST #7076 of 10000
Sure I went over to the Dark Side, but just to pick up a few things.
That joke will never die.
JenP - Mar 16, 2005 9:32:23 am PST #7077 of 10000
(Sorry. I often can't help myself.)
§ ita § - Mar 16, 2005 9:33:17 am PST #7078 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
If it's a straight razor, it almost doesn't matter who's wielding it -- those things are hawt.
Still, I have my preferences, and Sayid is definitely one.