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Lost: OMGWTF POLAR BEAR  

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Stephanie - Feb 24, 2005 9:06:39 am PST #6461 of 10000
Trust my rage

I think the writers have done a good job of showing most of the events that made Jin change from who he was in the beginning to who he is now. The one thing I don't follow is his new-found concern over Sun and her body. At the very beginning, he seems to love her low-backed dress. Then at the wedding, she's wearing that high-necked thing. Now, he seems so paranoid about her exposing any part of herself. To me, that doesn't really follow from either a broken relationship or being BossDaddy's enforcer.


§ ita § - Feb 24, 2005 9:09:30 am PST #6462 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

To me, that doesn't really follow from either a broken relationship or being BossDaddy's enforcer.

It may come from cultural isolation. Suddenly he's all old school proper because he's all the Korea there is.


Polter-Cow - Feb 24, 2005 9:09:42 am PST #6463 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I think the writers have done a good job of showing most of the events that made Jin change from who he was in the beginning to who he is now.

Yes.

The one thing I don't follow is his new-found concern over Sun and her body.

And yes again. As someone above pointed out, he's trying to isolate himself from the rest of the passengers by using the language barrier. I think Sun is the only thing he has on this island, and he's afraid of someone seeing her hotness and taking her away from him. I guess.

Suddenly he's all old school proper because he's all the Korea there is.

Oh, yeah. Another thing Jin's flashback cleared up was that they were, in fact, in Korea the whole time. The Sydney airport was cause of the job. It wasn't really explained how they got there before.


Stephanie - Feb 24, 2005 9:14:20 am PST #6464 of 10000
Trust my rage

Although we know it's not true, I can see how fishing village!Jin might believe that everyone else on the plane is some high class person by virtue of the fact that they could afford the long flight. This, plus the language barrier, may have made him feel isolated from the beginning. Perhaps that has made him want to control the one thing he thinks he can - Sun.


Kathy A - Feb 24, 2005 9:25:09 am PST #6465 of 10000
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

It finally occurred to me why Jin went nuts on Michael's possessing of Sun's father's watch back in the early days of the season. It wasn't that it was something given to him by his FiL, but it represented everything about his new life with Sun that he hates about himself, as well as the end of that life (if he had decided to take Sun and disappear in the U.S. after delivering the watch in San Francisco).


Lyra Jane - Feb 24, 2005 9:30:29 am PST #6466 of 10000
Up with the sun

I took a year of Japanese, and Jin may very well have more English than I had Nihongo after passing that course.

I had the same experience. Six credit hours and all I learned were the kanji for my name, the verb desu, and a vague sense that ka, on and no are useful words. I discovered as I was studying for the final that I'd had yes and no confused all semester.

The whole mess dragged my GPA way down, and I'm still bitter.

I did not recognize Walt in this ep - he looked like a different actor.

I had the same thought at first. He definitely has that about to enter a growth spurt" look.


-t - Feb 24, 2005 9:30:31 am PST #6467 of 10000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

The watch being so important to Jin makes me wonder how committed he was to walking away. I think he wants to, but he still hasn't really talked himself into it. I think that maybe helping Michael and spending more time as just Jin rather than Sun's protector and Korea's representative on the island will give him whatever he needs to break free of Boss!Daddy.


le nubian - Feb 24, 2005 9:37:21 am PST #6468 of 10000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

-t

The watch being so important to Jin makes me wonder how committed he was to walking away.

I think this was a writer error, actually. They did a good job connecting IT with HORS, but there are still some continuity errors (e.g. the age of the dog) and some characterization errors.


-t - Feb 24, 2005 9:41:36 am PST #6469 of 10000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I can believe that. I like conflicted Jin, though.


askye - Feb 24, 2005 9:52:03 am PST #6470 of 10000
Thrive to spite them

I wonder if they shot all of stuff up to Jin going to see his father at the same time they shot Sun's episode. I wasn't paying attention but it didn't look like Jin had any stubble until closer to the end when he saw his father.

I keep wondering how they are going to deal with the men's facial hair in flashbacks. That and I want to know what will happen when they run out of paper/pens. It doesn't look like they are doing a lot of writing but it'll be a problem in the long term.