That's disturbing. You're emotionally scarred and will end up badly.

Anya ,'Bring On The Night'


Lost: OMGWTF POLAR BEAR  

[NAFDA] This is where we talk about the show! Anything that's aired in the US (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though -- if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Kathy A - Feb 17, 2005 1:33:55 pm PST #6225 of 10000
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I think that there's a big difference between our (genre fandom's) take on the Lost characters and the general television audience who are discovering genre tv for the first time. The second group are a far bigger section of those viewing the show on a weekly basis, unfortunately, so I think that the network is deliberately having the creators/writers sand off some of the rough edges that the characters had to begin with. In today's TVGO Watercooler, the writer had what is probably a more common view of Sawyer:

Say what you will, I still think Sawyer's a turd. Even if he's haunted about killing the wrong dude for the murder-suicide of his folks, that's no reason to be rude. Honestly, he deserved to be stalked by that boar simply for not telling Jack that he'd met his booze-bag ex-doctor father in that bar Down Under. Just wrong.

Don't get me wrong--I think that the general TV viewership is more intelligent than the suits seem to think they are. However, not many of them are going to stick around for all-dark-characters, all-the-time; this is why shows like Profit and Buffalo Bob (and Angel) bombed in the ratings compared to shows like Friends and West Wing. Ironically, if Lost were less successful, the characters might be more interesting to us!


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 17, 2005 1:42:51 pm PST #6226 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

They're still genrefied enough for me - the attempts to make Sawyer and Charlie more likeable/understandable are the only character notes that rankle consistently (as opposed to intermittently, like KateNJack4Evah). But I wish to the Heavens above that the writers would get a better handle on plot momentum and have people act as if they have working brains with self preservation instincts.


Edain - Feb 17, 2005 1:48:14 pm PST #6227 of 10000
"Being hungover is like winning the lottery, except they pay you in regret!" - T-Rex

Here is the promo breakdown for next week's Lost episode:

Hmmmm, I think the Canadian previews must be different from the American ones. Up here we got "a shocking connection between Jack and Sawyer is revealed" right in the preview last week, and the preview last night for next week's episode had the raft on fire, but not anything with Locke shouting.


Una - Feb 17, 2005 2:00:01 pm PST #6228 of 10000
when i die, please bake my ashes into a brick and use me to hit fascists.

When I saw Duckett/Shrimp Guy (aka Jeff Perry), the role of his that sprung to my mind was Harvey Leek on Nash Bridges.

I feel a little less dorky now, since every time he was on screen last night I was yelling "Harvey!"

But still feeling dorky about this being in a post two screens back...hey, I'm trying to do labwork here, people...

What did everyone think about Charlie this episode?


Betsy HP - Feb 17, 2005 2:09:33 pm PST #6229 of 10000
If I only had a brain...

Still a woobie.


Liese S. - Feb 17, 2005 2:10:40 pm PST #6230 of 10000
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

A sad little dark woobie.


Una - Feb 17, 2005 2:11:37 pm PST #6231 of 10000
when i die, please bake my ashes into a brick and use me to hit fascists.

(I don't know what it says about me that, during the conversation between Sayid and Charlie, I was wondering what the Buffistas were going to make of the scene, given last week's conversation in this thread. That I've been sucked in, I suppose!)


Jessica - Feb 17, 2005 2:13:56 pm PST #6232 of 10000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Profit

On DVD in September! Finally!

Gods, that was a brilliant show.


Polter-Cow - Feb 17, 2005 2:18:09 pm PST #6233 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

What did everyone think about Charlie this episode?

I'm glad Drew retconned his motivations for shooting Ethan a bit (not so much retconned as added to in a sensible manner). I found him less unlikeable than I did at the end of last week's episode.


le nubian - Feb 17, 2005 2:22:11 pm PST #6234 of 10000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I do not have Charlie love. I really do feel like a stranger in a strange land when I go over to livejournal.