I think the writers have no guts in general. I was completely surprised when Sawyer's murder didn't turn out to be a dream sequence. By now, I've come to expect every evil or even naughty deed to be unrolled by the end of the episode.
Wash: Mal, your dead army buddy's on the bridge! Zoe: He ain't dead. Wash: Oh.
'The Message'
Lost: OMGWTF POLAR BEAR
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Betsy HP - Feb 17, 2005 8:23:28 am PST #6160 of 10000
If I only had a brain...
DXMachina - Feb 17, 2005 8:23:51 am PST #6161 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.
Except, he didn't.
He doesn't get a revenge pass from me. Original!Sawyer didn't kill his parents. Sawyer's father killed his parents.
Nutty - Feb 17, 2005 8:24:27 am PST #6162 of 10000
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
I like the fact that, not only is he a murderer, he's an incompetent murderer. Woobify that, mushy people!!
Ask questions first, shoot later. Advice for the ages.
I am with Jessica, classing Sawyer in the Jackass arena rather than antagonist/antihero. Like, he is a Jackass with a Secret Pain, but mostly, he just acts like a jackass. Spike was overtly woobified, which was annoying as all get-out BTW, whereas one must woobify Sawyer on something other than his canonical merits, if one is to woobify him at all.
§ ita § - Feb 17, 2005 8:24:52 am PST #6163 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I think the writers have no guts in general.
On this we agree. Having Sawyer having killed the right guy, and/or having no regrets -- then he's still bad. Showing him upset and used? Sanding down.
He doesn't get a revenge pass from me
Again, not talking about from you. Talking about what the writers seem to be trying for.
-t - Feb 17, 2005 8:27:24 am PST #6164 of 10000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
Sawyer didn't kill his parents. Sawyer's father killed his parents.
I had to read this a couple of time to get it straight.
Jack's father was quite the Diabolus ex Machina.
Frankenbuddha - Feb 17, 2005 8:30:21 am PST #6165 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
I like the fact that, not only is he a murderer, he's an incompetent murderer. Woobify that, mushy people!!
AND an even more incompetent mercy killer. He really should give up the whole killing thing - it's not working for him at all.
DXMachina - Feb 17, 2005 8:30:55 am PST #6166 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.
I had to read this a couple of time to get it straight.
Yeah, I went back an edited to clarify what I meant.
DXMachina - Feb 17, 2005 8:32:23 am PST #6167 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.
He really should give up the whole killing thing - it's not working for him at all.
He should've shot the boar. Protein just standing there for pity sake.
-t - Feb 17, 2005 8:32:58 am PST #6168 of 10000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
He really should give up the whole killing thing - it's not working for him at all.
Maybe that's why he didn't try it on the boar. He could sense the boar thinking at him "Go ahead and try. You know you'll miss and I'll still be able to gore you in the thigh and Kate will leave you to bleed to death because you imperilled my offspring. Make my day."
flea - Feb 17, 2005 8:37:00 am PST #6169 of 10000
information libertarian
Sawyer - really not all that bright. I don't think he's hot, either, so he sort of wastes my time.
Kate, now - Kate could skew my Kinsey.