Lost: OMGWTF POLAR BEAR
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There are probably a finite number of Ontological Mysteries available, falling in to three classes: the world is strange, or the people are strange, or there are strange people in a strange land.
My guess is that the island is last one. Jack was hallucinating the ice cubes (he is strange) the hallucinations were particularly vivid (the strangeness of the island at work.)
I'm reminded of The Forbidden Planet, with a lighter reliance on the
Tempest
paralells.
eta: Do I worry about a spoiling a movie made in 1956? Well, it doesn't hurt to whitefont:
There was a machine on the planet that magnified and made physical the impulses in a person's id. This manifested as a large invisible creature that liked to stomp on things and batter stuff down. My parallel from this to Lost is there may be some magical something on the island that works similarly.
Eek,
Identity
was the one of the first possible explanations I thought of. I actually wouldn't mind it, if I hadn't already thought of it... but since I have, I don't want them to do it. Unless it's all happening in
Walt's
head as a result of his three traumas in close succession. Maybe all the survivors are caught up in Walt's traumatized imagination; that could be fun. Derivative, but fun. Is there anything that isn't derivative?
I've got a theory, some kid is dreaming, and we're all caught in his wacky Broadway nightmare...
If it's
Forbidden Planet
, who's the innocent girl? Kate? Or is that taking it too far?
Interesting that "Kate" means "pure" when the character clearly isn't... unless it's a reference to her innocence of the crime she was accused of. I think the whole fake-arm-Kimble thing was meant to show us that she's innocent, otherwise why give the farmer a prosthetic at all?
Well, I'm not convinced she's innocent of anything. She has done something illegal/criminal in her past. Her statement to Sawyer "you don't know women who are exactly like me" indicates that she's definitely got an edge to her.
I think she killed someone, perhaps in self-defense, or she was high at the time, but I believe she did commit a serious crime.
Pardon the serial, but I just thought: If the island is turning everyone into the opposite of what they've been before, then shouldn't Jack become callous and selfish, or else ineffectual a la "I'm a lifeguard!" Boone. He's always been a help-the-helpless hero type.
And why isn't the island mojo working on everyone? Dang, I wish I'd been taping this thing.
If it's Forbidden Planet , who's the innocent girl? Kate? Or is that taking it too far?
I think it might be too far. The only paralell I see to the movie is the possibility of an id-magnifier.
I'm going with the first one for now, Gus. Abrams has said he likes to write about "ordinary people in extraordinary situations," and Jack's hallucinations can be explained away as him being sleep-deprived.
I think she killed someone, perhaps in self-defense, or she was high at the time, but I believe she did commit a serious crime.
Me too. I don't think she was high, but I could believe she either did it in self-defense or in an act of revenge, as someone suggested upthread.
And i'm defiinitely getting a high-priest vibe off of Locke.
Not just sleep-deprived, either... he's been through his father's death, a plane crash, nearly being eaten by some big unseen monster, and having to perform a mercy killing. If that's not enough to cause a legitimate nervous breakdown, I don't know what is.
Matt,
yeah because he started seeing his father the morning after the burning of the BODYS and it probably brought up all these feelings for him as well.
I am tempted to think the island is strange, that something extraordinary is at work there. Actually, though, there are only three datapoints for that idea. A conk on the head rarely heals paralyzed legs, some of the trees seem to be epileptic, and OMGWTF.
There may be real-world solutions for all of those.
Post-traumatic stress/sleep deprivation can certainly account for Jack's actions in
White Rabbit.
The usefulness of those hallucinations (finding water, meeting Locke with the boar) seems a little suspect, though.