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Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 15, 2005 9:07:27 am PST #5991 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

It's possible that "I did it to protect Claire" sounded like a more noble purpose to him than "the thought of Ethan alive, nearby, and under watch by Boone would have me wetting myself with terror." Though I'm afraid the flashbacks demonstrate that the former really did play a large part in his motivation.


Lilty Cash - Feb 15, 2005 9:07:45 am PST #5992 of 10000
"You see? THAT's what they want. Love, and a bit with a dog."

I don't see there even being a clear, choice-making train of thought, such as "Oh, look at this gun. Well, Ethan did hang me by the neck, and I would like to prove I can take care of a lady. We probably won't get any info from him- mayhap I'll shoot him."

It was more of an adrenaline based "You're gonna die for what you did to me and Claire and I will take care of her and BANG BANG BANG BANG".


Kathy A - Feb 15, 2005 9:10:00 am PST #5993 of 10000
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I'm with brenda--Charlie definitely wasn't thinking of the good of the camp. If JJ and the writers take some time in either this season or next to explore exactly what the consequences of Charlie's actions are, I'll be very happy.

Someone upthread said that Charlie was possibly one of the more dangerous people on the island, just because he's looking at everything from an emotional standpoint. He makes alliances not with a strategy in mind, but from whatever feels right to him at that time. He follows leaders with a puppydog mentality of wanting to be useful. Well, if the others start taking him for granted or, even worse, neglect him, he has the potential to turn on them, as he showed last week.


Jars - Feb 15, 2005 9:10:01 am PST #5994 of 10000

I don't think at the time it actually had jack to do with anything but Ethan making him feel like a useless fuck-up.

I thought the point of the episode was to show that Charlie had changed; he's all growed up. Admittedly, they did it in kind of a ham-fisted fashion, but it's not the first time a Charlie storyline has had a whiff of the anvil about it.

Plus I tend to give Charlie a lot of leeway. He's just so darned cute.


Jessica - Feb 15, 2005 9:13:44 am PST #5995 of 10000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I thought the point of the episode was to show that Charlie had changed; he's all growed up.

Huh -- I thought exactly the opposite. In both cases, his intentions were to protect and take care of the girl he liked (neither of whom had indicated in any way that they needed or wanted to be taken care of). In the first case, he failed spectacularly, and in the second, he succeeded by accident. Where's the maturity?


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 15, 2005 9:30:14 am PST #5996 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

That's my read of it too, Jessica. While his actions may have worked out to the same end that a practical, detached view would have called for, his actual thought process (if he could be said to be thinking at all rather than letting his emotions run rampant) was anything but.


Jars - Feb 15, 2005 9:44:03 am PST #5997 of 10000

In the first case, he failed spectacularly, and in the second, he succeeded by accident. Where's the maturity?

Yeah, this is what I meant. I think the intention was to show that Charlie had matured from the flashback, where he was completely useless, more or less, to the present, where he takes some affirmative action. I just don't think it came across as that very well. It may not have been the intention at all, but that's the feeling I got. So we get a Charlie who associates protecting and providing for the wimmin folk with maturity. Which leaves me asking more questions than it answers, really.


Allyson - Feb 15, 2005 9:50:43 am PST #5998 of 10000
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Jessica, got the package. Thank you so much! Please pass on my big thanks to DH, too.


le nubian - Feb 15, 2005 10:08:03 am PST #5999 of 10000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I actually think Charlie may be a dangerous person on the island, but Boone has so far PROVEN himself to be a dangerous person. Get me the fuck away from Boone and Locke.


Frankenbuddha - Feb 15, 2005 10:12:18 am PST #6000 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I hope Locke catches Boone at his next major fuckup, and, shall we say, chastises him harshly.