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Lost: OMGWTF POLAR BEAR  

[NAFDA] This is where we talk about the show! Anything that's aired in the US (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though -- if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 11, 2005 5:42:43 am PST #5927 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Maybe killing Boone as he slumped over there sleeping for hours on end struck Ethan as too easy?

I wish it had been someone besides SuperJack that brought Ethan down and beat him up when Claire started screaming for help. Sayid or Locke would have been fine, and Kate superb (Hey, she knows pistol-whipping technique!) given the increasing tinges of chauvanism they're injecting into his character.


Liese S. - Feb 11, 2005 5:43:48 am PST #5928 of 10000
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Yeah, I agree, Matt. My basic reaction to that scene was, gee, Jack's got issues.


tavella - Feb 11, 2005 6:15:00 am PST #5929 of 10000
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists.

I wish it had been someone besides SuperJack that brought Ethan down and beat him up when Claire started screaming for help. Sayid or Locke would have been fine, and Kate superb (Hey, she knows pistol-whipping technique!) given the increasing tinges of chauvanism they're injecting into his character.

I'm not sure I'd call picking Sawyer over Kate chauvinism, unless you are referring to something else. Jack isn't watching the show, all he knows is that Kate is a criminal, claims to have killed someone, and lies like she breathes. We know that she's an ace shot; he doesn't even know that she can use a gun. Sawyer OTOH successfully shot a charging polar bear, which indicates accuracy and a cool head. I am not a Sawyer fan by any means, but in those circumstances I'd have given the gun to Sawyer too.

Of course, if I wasn't on TV I'd go through the other 30 redshirts and find another person who was competent with a gun and wasn't a fuckhead like Sawyer, but given the constraints of TV, ie, Thou Shalt Give It To One of the Main Characters, Sawyer's a pretty obvious choice and it's somewhat to Jack's credit that he didn't let his personal issues with Sawyer get in the way.

BTW, is TWOP giving everyone else error messages? I can't tell if it's saying my system is blocked or if everyone's is.


Polter-Cow - Feb 11, 2005 6:15:48 am PST #5930 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

BTW, is TWOP giving everyone else error messages?

Yeah, the forums have been down since last night, it seems.


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 11, 2005 6:26:08 am PST #5931 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Oh, I can understand Jack's reluctance to hand a gun to someone he saw suffer an apparent emotional breakdown after admitting that she killed a man (what I can't understand is him being all chummy and flirty with her in the next episode). But in general he seems to be taking on a very stereotyped outlook - earlier dismissing Kate as not dangerous because she's a woman, keeping Claire in the dark about a very active danger directed towards her (presumably to avoid her being overcome by a case of the vapors), assuming that it should only be men on the hunt (when for all he knows there could be a female castaway who was a target shooting champ back home but is unaware that guns and ammo are currently available). He's growing a snout and tail as we speak.

If I'd been Jack the gun that went to Sawyer would have been handed to Claire instead, to keep concealed on her person in case Ethan grabbed her again.


Lilty Cash - Feb 11, 2005 6:29:43 am PST #5932 of 10000
"You see? THAT's what they want. Love, and a bit with a dog."

WRT the actual plan, it also seems silly that the mechanics turned out the way they did when Jack's original fear was that they'd end up shooting each other. Everyone in a circle, guns pointed to the center. Good one.

(Not that I could have put a better plan together on my own, but still.)


§ ita § - Feb 11, 2005 6:41:29 am PST #5933 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I doubt it was part of his plan that they stand in a circle, but more that it's reflexive to surround that way.


Lilty Cash - Feb 11, 2005 6:42:58 am PST #5934 of 10000
"You see? THAT's what they want. Love, and a bit with a dog."

That's true- no one wants to leave a hole Ethan could get through. But still, they'd all best hope everyone's a good shot.


Liese S. - Feb 11, 2005 6:43:24 am PST #5935 of 10000
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Well, and Mr. Gun Safety was the first one to drop his weapon because he was the one to jump Ethan. Woulda been better for him to not have it at all, or to throw it away before he jumped, well out of reach of the current combatants.

When Scott got nicked, the SO pointed out that Steve had better start worrying. After all, he doesn't know he's a minor character.

So do we feel that the threat is over, now that Ethan is dead? 'Cause that's probably optimistic, right?


Lilty Cash - Feb 11, 2005 6:45:03 am PST #5936 of 10000
"You see? THAT's what they want. Love, and a bit with a dog."

I think Claire's going to be trouble.