Wash: I mean, I'm the one she swore to love, honor and obey. Mal: Listen... She swore to obey? Wash: Well, no, not...

'War Stories'


Lost: OMGWTF POLAR BEAR  

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Anne W. - Jan 25, 2005 10:14:31 am PST #5443 of 10000
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

The title treatment alone won my undying love.

Yes! I can't wait to get hold of S2 episodes.

t /unapologetic Carnivale fan


DavidS - Jan 25, 2005 10:31:37 am PST #5444 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

(I love Jonesy, Sophie, Samson and the Freaky Blind Dude whose name I forget),

Lodz

and the occasional moments when it punches me in the gut, like that whole thing with the miners and Dora Mae (like, one of the most upsetting things I've seen on TV EVAH)

Yeah, that was a very dark and upsetting storyline, and the last shot of "Pick A Number" is one of the most haunting things I've seen on a TV show. Comparable to the big reveal in The Kingdom (the original Lars Von Trier mini).


Gus - Jan 25, 2005 10:34:38 am PST #5445 of 10000
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

and the occasional moments when it punches me in the gut, like that whole thing with the miners and Dora Mae

Amen. A year later, that is haunting.


Polter-Cow - Jan 25, 2005 10:35:16 am PST #5446 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I just had a thought. I was having trouble figuring out why Walt would summon a polar bear, but reading the TWoP recap, I remembered the burning comic book. There's a close-up on the polar bear. Maybe Walt was thinking, "Man, I wish a polar bear would come and eat my stupid dad cause he burned my stupid Spanish comic book." And it backfired.


§ ita § - Jan 25, 2005 10:37:32 am PST #5447 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Question is, why are there polar bears around to be summoned? Assuming Delenn's bears were polar -- did she say?


brenda m - Jan 25, 2005 10:40:06 am PST #5448 of 10000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

No, I don't think she did.

There was an earlier polar bear incident when Walt was reading that part of the comic book, but I don't think it's any conscious agency on his part, even in the wishful thinking sense.

eta: I don't mean there's no connection, of course, because that seems pretty inescapable at the moment.


Polter-Cow - Jan 25, 2005 10:40:36 am PST #5449 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

She didn't say polar, no. She just said "bears."

But you're right, their existence in general is still unanswered. Maybe they were brought with Del--Rousseau's original crew, all Noah's Ark-like.


Calli - Jan 25, 2005 10:43:40 am PST #5450 of 10000
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Or maybe they manifested from the ether, when Send 'Em to the Cornfield Kid wished it.


§ ita § - Jan 25, 2005 10:46:20 am PST #5451 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Are there any bears even vaguely native to that presumed geography?

I mean, if Danielle's talking about Kodiak bears, is that any less whacked? Writer not named JJ Ockham, but I'd pretty much figured that all the bears were polar, until we get evidence of menagerie-type infestations.


brenda m - Jan 25, 2005 10:49:36 am PST #5452 of 10000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I mean, if Danielle's talking about Kodiak bears, is that any less whacked?

Nope, just as whacked.

The bird incident would seem to lend credence to the idea that the polar bears are the bears Danielle mentioned, and that Walt is unknowingly summoning them, rather than his unknowingly creating them out of thin air. But she didn't say so.