Bitch!Babymama

I want to see more about why she did what she did. Was she just that selfish or was there something else going on?

I want to see more about why she did what she did. Was she just that selfish or was there something else going on?

Well, considering I just flashed on the notion that the reason she saved Michael's cards was in case he ever made it as an artist so she'd have something of his work to sell, I'm leaning towards the former, but that's just me.

True. But it's going to take a lot of "why" to make me think it's a good thing to keep the letters of his father from your son.

I want to see more about why she did what she did. Was she just that selfish or was there something else going on?

I think she considered her relationship with Michael over, and did everything she could to sever it completely. Ergo, Walt's relationship with Michael was also now over.

I agree with all who have mentioned the Bryan-Walt "relationship"/takeover as a factor for the instinctual discomfort (pre-knives) of Walt with Locke.

The episode was set up so beautifully. A lot of satisfying emotional payoff from previous episodes. This is how I like my TV.

I want to see more about why she did what she did. Was she just that selfish or was there something else going on?

I'd guess her feeling was that Walt now had a mom and a dad and bringing a third party into the relationship would just confuse him. I.e. 'this is not an open adoption'. I still think she was a bitch, since she was completely heedless of anyone else's best interests in setting up her perfect life. "I'll move to Amsterdam and won't lift a finger to help sustain Michael and Walt's relationship; I'll emotionally blackmail Brian into adopting Walt even though he doesn't want him, because that way everything will be tidier; I'll not share his biological father's letters with Walt because then I'd have to explain... "

I still think she was a bitch, since she was completely heedless of anyone else's best interests in setting up her perfect life. "I'll move to Amsterdam and won't lift a finger to help sustain Michael and Walt's relationship; I'll emotionally blackmail Brian into adopting Walt even though he doesn't want him, because that way everything will be tidier; I'll not share his biological father's letters with Walt because then I'd have to explain...

Actually, I'm glad she died, because if anyone ever deserved to die, it was her.

Anyone else think that her death wasn't necessarily a natural thing? That envelope that Brian gave Michael reminded me too much of the envelope that the psychic gave Claire with her airplane info to make me think that it's all a coincidence.

I did remember really liking the Mercutio, especially since he's probably my favorite character in the play.

P-C is me. HP's Mercutio was definitely the highlight of the film. (Which could be considered faint praise, depending on one's opinion of it. I personally thought it was okay, but can't stand the really fast low-attention-span friendly cuts near the beginning of the movie. If the whole movie had been like that, I would have hated it.)

I love the film. Note that I'm not saying it's a great film (possibly even a good one), but for whatever reason, I do love it so.

I want to see more about why she did what she did. Was she just that selfish or was there something else going on?

Sadly, I'd kinda tend toward "just that selfish," or maybe just that thoughtless. Despite recent shifts in the notions of what parenting is and who a father is to his kids, there's still a pretty large, many generations old, unspoken cultural assumption that mom is the parent who matters.

I have an acquaintance who has bent over backward to maintain daily contact with his daughter, at first in the face of his ex's baffled but patient indulgence and over the last two years in the face of her very thinly veiled hostility. She's married again, so their daughter has a father figure living at home ("at home" being mom's home, not dad's, despite 50/50 physical custody), so why doesn't he regard this as an opportunity to run off and be free? Just like Bitch!Babymama, she sees his insistence on having a relationship with his kid as overinvolved and a little selfish. Thank God she hasn't run off to Amsterdam yet, but she would if a job opportunity presented, and she'd be sincerely morally outraged if he objected.

And when I was gossiping and bemoaning Dad!Friend's situation with another friend, she shrugged and rattled off the stories of three other decent, trying-to-do-the-right-thing guys she knows in similar or worse situations.

I really wish there was some big dark secret behind the Amsterdam/Italy/Bryan/adoption/no-cards-ever thing, but it was probably just unspoken assumptions and a belief that she was truly acting in Walt's best interests. Which is shitty and thoughtless in a banal everyday regular people doing well-intentioned harm to each other way that makes me all kinds of happy as a storytelling consumer, however miserable it makes me as a Michael sympathizer.