Look, you got a little stabbed the other day. That's bound to make anyone a mite ornery.

Mal ,'Ariel'


Lost: OMGWTF POLAR BEAR  

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UTTAD - Jan 14, 2005 6:24:00 am PST #4865 of 10000
Strawberry disappointment.

Why is Sayid such a fucking moron?

I read that scene as both Jack and Sayid knowing there was something weird about the compass/island but were just glossing over it in a sort of "We both know it's weird but we'll just blame Locke".


-t - Jan 14, 2005 6:24:09 am PST #4866 of 10000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Sayid had a perfectly good magnetized needle floating in water when he got the compass, right? Surely he would have checked to see if botheneedles pointed in the same direction before saying "This compass is faulty". Though I can't imagine what would make a compass point somewhere but not magnetic north (or south).


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 14, 2005 6:25:48 am PST #4867 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Perhaps a large outcropping of iron-rich black rock nearby?


Polter-Cow - Jan 14, 2005 6:27:16 am PST #4868 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Perhaps a large outcropping of iron-rich black rock nearby?

Maybe that's how Rousseau and her team defeated some of the original invisimechasaurs, by luring them to the Black Rock of MAGNETISM, where they became immobile and useless.

Then the Others got wise and started making them out of plastic.


Astarte - Jan 14, 2005 6:27:53 am PST #4869 of 10000
Not having has never been the thing I've regretted most in my life. Not trying is.

Is the whole thing just a game to him?

I'd actually argue that is anything but a game to him. It's life or living death.

Though much was made of Locke's being denied his walkabout by the Adventure Tourists, I don't think they were wrong. I don't mean that Locke didn't do absolutely everything to prepare for it, but that I think his plan was to live the way he wanted ("Don't tell me what I can't do.") or die. Either outcome would, I think have been acceptable to him, but not to the Tour Co and their insurance underwriters.

What he finds insupportable is to go back to what he clearly thinks of as a living death as the wheelchair bound supervisor at the box company being made fun of by the Boones/Charlies of the world.


Scrappy - Jan 14, 2005 6:32:02 am PST #4870 of 10000
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I also think Locke feels that his side is the Island's side, so you are not siding with him so much as opening yourself up to the place. He is the High Priest in this scenario and needs a congregation to prove his own belief is correct.


Jars - Jan 14, 2005 6:32:41 am PST #4871 of 10000

Perhaps a large outcropping of iron-rich black rock nearby?

Ah-ha! And we know that Rousseau went to the black rock(s) after she sent the message. But why? Does it mess up the Others' mojo?


§ ita § - Jan 14, 2005 6:33:46 am PST #4872 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

So Locke is bad because he tied someone up and injured them for their own good (and it worked) rather than tying someone up and injuring them in the name of someone else's good, even though it doesn't work?


-t - Jan 14, 2005 6:35:16 am PST #4873 of 10000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Totally forgot about the black rock. Has it been mentioned besides in the (untranslated by Shannon) transmission?


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 14, 2005 6:37:28 am PST #4874 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I'd say there's a matter of degree involved, as "wants to share a secret with Shannon" doesn't quite scream for intervention to me in the way that "won't tell anyone where Shannon's life-saving medicine is" does. Presumably Locke didn't know how deep and unhealthy Boone's Shannon issues were when he pulled the Perils of Pauline schtick.

Also, Sayid and Jack were at least theoretically better able to control the risks and level of harm than tying someone up in the middle of a forest where wild pigs, bears, and a giant invisible robot dinosaur have been known to roam.