Jayne: What're you gonna tell the others? Mal: About what? Jayne: About why I'm dead. Mal: Hadn't thought about it. Jayne: Make something up. Don't tell 'em what I did.

'Ariel'


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§ ita § - Jan 13, 2005 7:20:58 am PST #4760 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It could have been a love fuck or a lets have babies with a gnarled family tree fuck or a I'm-your-daddy fuck. Still not as disturbing as how he got over it.

However, I do see it as a pity (not sympathy, pity) fuck. A "right, right, I'm sorry, stop whining" fuck.


Deena - Jan 13, 2005 7:21:04 am PST #4761 of 10000
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

I think Shannon would have to be a nicer person for it to be a pity fuck. She just regained control over him. The sex skeeved me a lot. I could understand the relief. He's not a strong person. He's a little pissant. If she's dead all his sibling/sexual feelings don't have to be dealt with. He can just pretend it never happened.


§ ita § - Jan 13, 2005 7:21:51 am PST #4762 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think Shannon would have to be a nicer person for it to be a pity fuck.

Yikes. Either you think she's way less nice than I do, or don't see a pity fuck as an extremely un-nice thing.


-t - Jan 13, 2005 7:27:38 am PST #4763 of 10000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I'm confused. Who is pitying whom?


Lee - Jan 13, 2005 7:28:24 am PST #4764 of 10000
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Still not as disturbing as how he got over it.

As I said, I agree.

Either you think she's way less nice than I do, or don't see a pity fuck as an extremely un-nice thing.

Or both. I think it was designed to get control over Boone, so it went a little past pity fuck. She did an already not nice thing, because she saw a way to work it to her advantage.


§ ita § - Jan 13, 2005 7:28:31 am PST #4765 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Shannon, pitying Boone, in my evaluation.


Polter-Cow - Jan 13, 2005 7:29:17 am PST #4766 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I'm with -t. At first, I thought Boone was pitying Shannon, but ita seems to think it's the other way around. Either way, I didn't think it was a pity fuck. I thought it was, for Shannon, "I'm drunk and he wants me," and for Boone, "I can finally have her the way I want her."


§ ita § - Jan 13, 2005 7:34:38 am PST #4767 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

As I said, I agree.

I wasn't disagreeing with your agreeing. Just clarifying my point.

"I can finally have her the way I want her."

In my pity-fuck scenario, that's precisely what the pitied party thinks.

Shannon's been drunk around Boone wanting her before, I bet. I think she was shutting him up, trying to cover over what he just learnt.

For her peace and future opportunity, though.


le nubian - Jan 13, 2005 7:34:55 am PST #4768 of 10000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Given that she was drunk and she came to him after Brian took her "half" of the money, I'm not sure I'd call it a pity fuck either.

However, she definitely had ulterior motives for fucking him. It wasn't just the "drunk fuck."

Exactly how many different fucks can we come up with?


Kate P. - Jan 13, 2005 7:35:10 am PST #4769 of 10000
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

What if he saw her being brought into the station by Marshall Shrap and managed to overhear a few tidbits of why she was there.

Ooh, I like this theory.

Shannon depended on being able to manipulate Boone, and he had finally caught on to how she was doing so, so she added a new way.

Yeah, this was how I saw it, too.