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Lost: OMGWTF POLAR BEAR  

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Nutty - Jan 07, 2005 6:42:37 am PST #4461 of 10000
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Actually, I am thinking, if it's been a month, don't you think that Jin & Sun would have picked up some English? I mean, being exposed to it daily and being required to interact with English-only speakers to survive. Pantomime is all well and good, but it's the nature of the human brain to pick up language.

I mean, the sum total of my exposure to Mandarin Chinese is a handful of subtitled movies, but even so I've figured out a word or two. Yes, Thank you, that kind of thing.

Not to mention, why isn't anybody actively trying to teach them English? I mean, just to pass the time, aside from the part where each of them has something to contribute and a skill others could learn. I am thinking, the Sun Speaks English secret realistically needs to have a very short half-life.


§ ita § - Jan 07, 2005 6:44:48 am PST #4462 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

being required to interact with English-only speakers

I wonder how much they are required. They can get their own food and water, after all.

But I've known people born and raised in, say, Montreal who couldn't tell you what the French for "bus" is. Just watching consulate staff indicates picking language up isn't that automatic, especially if you're insular by nature, which Jin certainly is.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 07, 2005 6:45:48 am PST #4463 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Well, we haven't seen Jin enough to know if he's picking anything up. I suppose Sun could use him as a guide and fake staying just slightly more proficient at the language than he as time goes on.


Lyra Jane - Jan 07, 2005 6:49:12 am PST #4464 of 10000
Up with the sun

I think Jin hasn't picked up English because he doesn't want to, and Sun hasn't pretended to learn it because she knows Jin wouldn't want her to. Similarly, if they don't let anyone try to teach them, attempts to do so will obviously be short-lived. Self-imposed isolation can be powerful.


§ ita § - Jan 07, 2005 6:50:36 am PST #4465 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Jin probably recognises "yes" and "no" and "you stupid sexist motherfucker."

Though it's likely he only translates the first two correctly.


Jim - Jan 07, 2005 6:56:02 am PST #4466 of 10000
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!

How long before Sun uses one of the Guns to protect Michael from Jin? I bet on 3 eps.


Liese S. - Jan 07, 2005 8:23:28 am PST #4467 of 10000
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Ooh! Does Jin die? Because I like that scenario as long as Jin doesn't die.


Wolfram - Jan 07, 2005 9:44:44 am PST #4468 of 10000
Visilurking

I thought that too, but my first reaction was "why did Kate take off her pants and Sawyer still has his on?"

Because nobody wanted to see Sawyer in his black panties?

also? terry o'quinn confirmed at the fuselage that that was maggie grace singing.

I can buy that, but she had a OMWF studio setup for that kind of sound, not lying on the sand picked up by a boom mike.

I think Jin hasn't picked up English because he doesn't want to, and Sun hasn't pretended to learn it because she knows Jin wouldn't want her to.

I maintain Jin speaks English. Otherwise his character is going to get about as much screen time as the dog.


Lee - Jan 07, 2005 9:49:18 am PST #4469 of 10000
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Because nobody wanted to see Sawyer in his black panties?

No offense, but Wrong. Wrongwrongwrongwrongwrongwrongwrongwrongwrongwrongwrong wrongwrongwrongwrongwrongWrongwrongwrongwrongwrongwrong wrongwrong. Wrong. Like a wrong thing from Wrongville.


Jessica - Jan 07, 2005 9:50:03 am PST #4470 of 10000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Because nobody wanted to see Sawyer in his black panties?

I demand a recount. Those poll numbers are clearly skewed in favor of CRAZY.