(who was referred to on the TWOP boards as a redneck) is a) reading a novel and b) willing to be seen reading a novel with a bunny rabbit on the cover. If he knew what kind of book...

See? This is starkest tinfoil-hat thinking. This is "Ooh, There is an eye over the pyramid, let's make a movie!" thinking, at it its finest.

Huh? I'm not sure what you mean.

Anyhow, I was trying to point out that even though a good chunk of his behavior makes it easy to write Sawyer off as an ignorant yahoo, his choice of reading matter and even the "light, comma, 'Sticks'" bit make me think that Sawyer's probably a lot more book-smart than he lets on.

Huh? I'm not sure what you mean.

I think Gus is referring to our ability to grasp onto the smallest detail and extrapolate an inconceivable amount of information from it.

even the "light, comma, 'Sticks'" bit make me think that Sawyer's probably a lot more book-smart than he lets on.

Yeah, my friend remarked, "Ooh, he knows what a comma is!"

I think Gus is referring to our ability to grasp onto the smallest detail and extrapolate an inconceivable amount of information from it.

Yeah. That's half the fun, innit? Still, from what we know of the character as portrayed, I would have expected to see him reading, say, a Tom Clancy novel rather than a novel about rabbit culture.

Huh? I'm not sure what you mean.

Oh. I was reacting to the rabbits/Watership Downs connection.

Sawyer is verra smart. Doubt it not.

Sawyer is verra smart. Doubt it not.

My theory is he's reading the book so he can be one step ahead of the game. The rabbits will teach him an Important Lesson about how to initiate a Hostile Takeover of the island.

Consensus there was Kate = Hyzenthlay. I haven't read the book in years, dammit. Must rectify

Hmm. I would hope that Kate would be more pro-active than that. Hyzenthlay doesn't appear until late in the novel and doesn't actually do much other than try to escape offscreen before Bigwig arrives, and then successfully escape with Bigwig. Most of the female rabbits don't play much of a role in the plot other than as quest-objects.

I like Sawyer as Bigwig because Bigwig isn't all that convinced of Hazel's leadership abilities early on. He does change his mind later, though, and becomes incredibly valuable.

I still like Locke as Fiver in the advisor/visionary role. It's not like these have to be perfect analogies (she says, contradicting her earlier point).

I bet Locke maps to Randall Flagg most readily by end of season.

The creators have described him as their Randall Flagg character, so I think that's a pretty sure bet. Though I don't know that he's necessarily going to be a conscious servant of evil. Between the magical empowerment by disastrous events and the fact that he has good motivation to oppose rescue, I think there are enough common features that a point-by-point parallel isn't necessary for them to make the comparison.

True, but Fred and Andrew in their own show...

I prefer the notion of Illyria and Andrew in their own show. Preferrably pre-"Time Bomb" Illyria so that once he sufficiently annoys her she can go back into the past and eradicate him from existence altogether.

I prefer the notion of Illyria and Andrew in their own show. Preferrably pre-"Time Bomb" Illyria so that once he sufficiently annoys her she can go back into the past and eradicate him from existence altogether.

So, you're thinking miniseries, then

They could do a series based on the changes that would cause in Buffy Seasons 6 and 7 with Illyria taking Andrew's place. Though the Nerd Trio might not be so easily dismissed.

Imagine how that "tiny kings" crack would have gone over in Flooded...

okay, I'll bite. Why does the notion that they may be in purgatory or something make you react so negatively?

Not Gus, but I feel very similarly to him so I'll respond as well.

It's terribly hackneyed, plus, them being dead sort of invalidates any and all conflict from the concept. What does anything matter if they're dead? They're dead!

And I'll say again, the text of the show does not, I think, support this premise. I can't accept an afterlife, even a purgatory, where the dead need food, water, can get injured by boars, or give birth to a child. To me, that's really kind of a six-year-old vison of an afterlife: "Will I be able to still eat fried chicken (or insert other favorite food here) in Heaven?" "If I get my leg cut off in an accident, will I get it back in Heaven?" "Will I be able to keep my dog (or other beloved pet) in Heaven?"

I still like Locke as Fiver in the advisor/visionary role. It's not like these have to be perfect analogies (she says, contradicting her earlier point).

I still think it's way too early to say that Locke will be an advisor to Jack. And I don't see Locke as a visionary at all. He's too much of a pragmatist. A meat and potatoes kind of guy, who doesn't believe in magic, even though he thinks the island is special in that regard.

In fact, I think this last episode, and Locke's interaction with Jack, strongly hint that, if they divide into two sides, Jack will be leading (in an army commander fashion) the "we need to get the hell out of here side," and Locke will lead (in a high-priest fashion) the "let's stay and worship the island" fashion.