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dcp - Oct 30, 2004 3:18:34 pm PDT #1206 of 10000
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

So far Hurley has only been comic relief. Perhaps he has Herald in his future.


DCJensen - Oct 30, 2004 4:07:52 pm PDT #1207 of 10000
All is well that ends in pizza.

Hark the Hurley?


Gus - Oct 30, 2004 4:14:51 pm PDT #1208 of 10000
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

OK, you guys. I will have to go back over the episodes so far and catalog my evidence. I have the impression Hurly is always announcing things. The water is running out. We're out of food. Kate and Dr. Tatoo are in wuv. This guy is bleeding to death t faint .

The comedic element is there. It makes the announcements more palatable.


SailAweigh - Oct 30, 2004 4:15:52 pm PDT #1209 of 10000
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

So, Hurley is the Greek Chorus, gone solo?


DavidS - Oct 30, 2004 4:16:40 pm PDT #1210 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

It makes the announcements more palatable.

Sort of like Giles as Exposition Guy. Which means Hurley's more a plot convenience than a character. I mean...I'm not dying to know his backstory. In fact I'm pretty sure his life up until the crash was stock boy at Wal-Mart and getting stoned with his buds and watching Scooby Doo and Kevin Smith movies.


Gus - Oct 30, 2004 4:20:07 pm PDT #1211 of 10000
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

I mean Herald, as Ms. Goodin has layed it out.


DavidS - Oct 30, 2004 4:22:38 pm PDT #1212 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I mean Herald, as Ms. Goodin has layed it out.

BtVS really conforms to the archetypes. Herald would be Buffy's first Watcher. Giles as mentor. Faith as shadow. Spike as Trickster.


SailAweigh - Oct 30, 2004 4:31:34 pm PDT #1213 of 10000
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Herald would be Buffy's first Watcher

Only if you assume Buffy to have accepted her calling in the movie and not during season one of BtVS. In season one, we had a very reluctant Slayer. She didn't really accept her calling until the final episode. I'd be more likely to consider Angel or Giles as the Herald. Or, the Prophecy, actually. It was Buffy's compliance with it, that finally made her realize she could not fight her destiny. She could change it, but she couldn't fight it.


Gus - Oct 30, 2004 4:40:18 pm PDT #1214 of 10000
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

Only if you assume Buffy to have accepted her calling

The herald provides a pointer to the challenge. Refusal of the call is always a huge element in epics.

The willingness of the hero to deny the challenge is almost part of the definition of herald.

Take Fray, for example. Nut case Watcher shows up and sets himself on fire. Herald action at its finest. Fray is all "Dude, what a nutcase." Then the challenges come, just as the nutcase has described.


JenP - Oct 30, 2004 4:46:44 pm PDT #1215 of 10000

In fact I'm pretty sure his life up until the crash was stock boy at Wal-Mart and getting stoned with his buds and watching Scooby Doo and Kevin Smith movies.

Maybe the writers will surprise you.

My info bar tells me I'm 70% closer to getting Kate's story (thanks for the link, Daniel). Very exciting.