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The Buffista Book Club: the Harry Potter iteration  

This thread is a focused discussion group. Please see the first post below for the current topic and upcoming book discussions. While natter will inevitably happen, we encourage you to treat this like a virtual book club and try to keep your posts in that spirit.

By consensus, this thread is reopened specifically to discuss Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows. It will be closed again once that discussion has run its course.

***SPOILER ALERT***

  • **Spoilers for Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows lie here. Read at your own risk***


Wolfram - Aug 03, 2005 9:42:05 am PDT #948 of 3301
Visilurking

What kind of details do you think we need to work out, Wolfram?

Exactly what you're talking about. Making the Gutenberg idea, which sounds great in theory, work in practice. Is there someone with the technical know-how to format and link the book for download? (Assuming people see the plain text format as a barrier.) Creating a discussion guide, and having a guide provider, whether the book chooser or otherwise, lead and stimulate discussion. Talking about the length of discussion periods, and what was turning people off (and on) in the first round of book club.

For example, there were some postings upthread which might be helpful, like Hec's pointing out that we like discussing character motives and actions:

DavidS "The Buffista Book Club: Isn't the Point of Computers to Replace Books?" Dec 16, 2004 2:38:54 pm PST

Or Lcat's suggestions about changing up genres and a designated guide:

lcat "The Buffista Book Club: Isn't the Point of Computers to Replace Books?" Mar 17, 2005 7:46:18 am PST

And there were similar suggestions made by folks like Connie, Amyliz, Cindy, Brenda M, Stephanie, Heather and others.

And I'd love to do a graphic novel and recruit those fine experienced minds from Jossverse to help us analyze. (But that's selfishly because I've recently read some amazing works in that style and I think some could sustain extended discussion.)

Anyway, if we're going to give it a final go, I think it might be worth taking a little time to tweak the things that weren't working and focus on the things that were.


DavidS - Aug 03, 2005 10:50:19 am PDT #949 of 3301
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I suspect Fay's suggestion about a threaded book conversation by chapter is probably what works best online. Which may account for why our unthreaded board is less suitable for a book club. It's all or nothing. You can't read the first chapter and discuss it. You can't get drawn in by seeing what other people are discussing in the first chapter.

I think Gutenberg would be a fine experiment, but I personally wouldn't want to read a book online. I have to stare at a computer all day. Readnig a book is a different kind of eyestrain.

I'd like to open it to HBP discussion because I think that would probably work here since so many people have already read it.


Connie Neil - Aug 03, 2005 10:51:47 am PDT #950 of 3301
brillig

How would a HBP discussion here be different than what's been going on in Literary in whitefont?


libkitty - Aug 03, 2005 10:54:20 am PDT #951 of 3301
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

I think it would be the same, only no whitefont necessary.


Wolfram - Aug 03, 2005 11:26:55 am PDT #952 of 3301
Visilurking

I suspect Fay's suggestion about a threaded book conversation by chapter is probably what works best online. Which may account for why our unthreaded board is less suitable for a book club. It's all or nothing. You can't read the first chapter and discuss it. You can't get drawn in by seeing what other people are discussing in the first chapter.

I can see advantages to threaded discussions, but we've been able to have lengthy discussions on every other sort of medium from music to movies to television, and on numerous topics that lend themselves to divergence like politics, religion, and what lunch was. And Literary (and Jossverse) already sustain unthreaded literary discussions. I think you were more on the money with the choice of our selections than the forum where we discuss them.

I think Gutenberg would be a fine experiment, but I personally wouldn't want to read a book online. I have to stare at a computer all day. Readnig a book is a different kind of eyestrain.

I think you've confused the delivery system with the product. Gutenberg is a way for people who may not have the book or the time or patience to procure the book to get it in a convenient manner. Whatever classic(s) we end up selecting may already be on your bookshelf.


DavidS - Aug 03, 2005 11:38:23 am PDT #953 of 3301
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I think you've confused the delivery system with the product.

I'm easily confused.


Wolfram - Aug 03, 2005 12:15:21 pm PDT #954 of 3301
Visilurking

I'm easily confused.

Then my work here is done.


Trudy Booth - Aug 03, 2005 12:43:40 pm PDT #955 of 3301
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

He IS a lawyer after all.


Fay - Aug 04, 2005 5:54:45 am PDT #956 of 3301
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

t idle

Having recently read V for Vendetta and Watchmen for the first time, I'd rather enjoy the chance to discuss them at length in the same way that I did HBP. But, that said, I think your Guttenberg suggestion seems fair, if I'm right in undersanding it to be one of the online archives of classics?

...sorry, I shouldn't be interjecting at all, really, as I'm fairly unlikely to participate. Nothing to see here.


Frankenbuddha - Aug 04, 2005 5:58:59 am PDT #957 of 3301
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Having recently read V for Vendetta and Watchmen for the first time, I'd rather enjoy the chance to discuss them at length in the same way that I did HBP.

Well, it would be a great excuse for me to read them again, though I really should get a TPB of V since I read it as it was coming out in the US, and never bothered to get a compiled copy.

...sorry, I shouldn't be interjecting at all, really, as I'm fairly unlikely to participate. Nothing to see here.

Oh well, good idea though.