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***SPOILER ALERT***
Reading some comments on Dumbledore's outing and laughed my ass off at this one:
And give me a break with this “it traumatizes my kids” nonsense. If you dont want you kids to hear about “deviant” sexual behavior, stop electing republicans to congress.
BWAH!
OK, that's worth a second BWAH! here.
There are times when it's obvious an author is modelling real world racial/ethnic stereotypes for propagandistic purposes, and other times when it's clearly unconscious, or else they're aiming to be enlightened, but missing the target by a mile. Writing is sometimes harder than it looks.
It's over. Nothing really surprising in the ending bits. Harry only keeps the cloak which is pretty much what probably anyone suspected would happen. One thing though, Harry says if he dies a natural death then the elder wand will never have another true owner. Well, he won the wand by yanking Draco's wand out of his hand. If someone ever disarms Harry then the elder wand will have a new owner. The wand thing just doesn't all click together for me.
The wand stuff confused the hell out of me too, Gud. I think I need a diagram. Or perhaps a Powerpoint presentation.
I don't really see how the wand stuff can all add up. It's not like it ruined the book for me, but I would have liked something more internally consistent.
I hand-wave with "the want choses the master"
So, if the Elder Wand has ANY SHOT AT ALL of picking Harry over Draco it is so going to.
I'm sure even the other wands are giving him hell. "Oh puhleeze, you aren't even the wand he took in that battle!"
The POV who gets most of his wizard knowledge second-hand, at that. Hermione pretty much proves that the wizarding world is an unreliable narrator in re: house elves.
And most --if not all -- of this conversation is coming from a human perspective with human value judgements. I'm sure in some alternate universe, goblins are sitting there on the Internet typing, "You know, in all of J.K. Rowling's books, humans are thieves!"
Expanding on what Victor said, I thought JKR did a good job in the last book of explaining how the Goblins are not money-grubbing from their point of view. They just have a different way of looking upon trade.
Warning: tangential nit-picking ahead.
If I say retrievers are all about their toys and herders are all about controlling others, it isn't a stereotype--it's a basic trait of their p species.
Retrievers and herders are the same species. They're dogs. The tendencies described are, in fact, breed stereotypes. They're usually based on genetic tendencies all dogs share, but that have been enhanced in one group by human manipulation or genetic isolation. There are plenty of retrievers out there who are more interested in people than toys and plenty of herders who are deeply ball or frisbee obsessed.
Breed specific legislation (think Pit Bull laws) is based on such stereotypes, which means those laws won't do what they're intended to do. Since dogs aren't sentient, it's obviously not a good comparison, but the discussion of non-human legislation in the Potterverse reminded me of this.