The Wizard world has stereotypes, they're just different stereotypes than the real-world ones. (Well, sometimes. No one seems to care at all about race, but the Irish and French and Bulgarian wizards that we saw were all fairly stereotypically Irish and French and Eastern European.)
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Hil R. - Oct 23, 2007 7:20:24 pm PDT #3243 of 3301
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
§ ita § - Oct 23, 2007 7:25:45 pm PDT #3244 of 3301
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Yeah, I don't think of it as a lesson in tolerance that didn't go far enough. Because I don't think of it as a lesson in tolerance.
I actually have never found her world building convincing when I think about it. But her worlds feel real.
How do you do that math? I mean, if it feels real, how is it not convincing?
Hil R. - Oct 23, 2007 7:30:32 pm PDT #3245 of 3301
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
I didn't really read it that way. I saw the Mudblood/Pureblood/Blood Traitor thing as clearly analogous to racial and ethnic issues, but not the different species. Because they are, well, different species. (I think the only part-wizard part-other we ever met was Fleur, and her family. And veelas in mythology were originally human anyway.) (Oh. Just remembered Hagrid and Madam Olympique. Hmm.)
And it also depends on how you're defining "intelligent species," I think. Just the ability to talk?
Trudy Booth - Oct 23, 2007 7:33:17 pm PDT #3246 of 3301
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
And it also depends on how you're defining "intelligent species," I think. Just the ability to talk?
At some point they actually list them, don't they? Umbridge maybe? The "non human magical creatures" act? They're not subject to certain rules or whatever?
Vortex - Oct 23, 2007 7:34:55 pm PDT #3247 of 3301
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
And it also depends on how you're defining "intelligent species," I think. Just the ability to talk?
I would think that it should be the ability to communicate and work together for a common goal.
Hil R. - Oct 23, 2007 7:39:33 pm PDT #3248 of 3301
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
I would think that it should be the ability to communicate and work together for a common goal.
Hmm. By that definition, though, I think the gargoyles would qualify.
Hil R. - Oct 23, 2007 7:45:09 pm PDT #3249 of 3301
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
Looks like the Ministry divides the magical creatures into Beasts, Beings, and Spirits. Specifically mentioned as Beasts are centuars, hippogriffs, dragons, and werewolves. Specifically mentioned as beings are house elves, goblines, and werewolves. (At the Ministry, the Werewolf Registry and the Werewolf Capture Unit are in the Beast division, but the Werewolf Support Services are in the Being division.)
billytea - Oct 23, 2007 8:04:04 pm PDT #3250 of 3301
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.
Hmm. By that definition, though, I think the gargoyles would qualify.
By that definition, mole rats qualify.
-t - Oct 23, 2007 8:32:28 pm PDT #3251 of 3301
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
humans get to be generalists; bad or good is to be determined, but for other species it's in the genes.
Hm, and I was thinking that all the magical species having specific flaws (which in at least the cases I can think of off the top of my head some individuals manage to transcend) implied that humanity also has a specific flaw we just can't see it, since we all pretty much have it.
Glamcookie - Oct 23, 2007 9:30:27 pm PDT #3252 of 3301
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister
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