Ah, yes, of course. The gypsies, they gave you your soul. The gypsies are filthy people. Ptui! We shall speak of them no more.

Ilona Costa Bianchi ,'The Girl in Question'


The Buffista Book Club: the Harry Potter iteration  

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By consensus, this thread is reopened specifically to discuss Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows. It will be closed again once that discussion has run its course.

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sumi - Sep 17, 2005 7:21:22 pm PDT #1320 of 3301
Art Crawl!!!

The peril I'm talking about is that most PI work is about sitting in a car waiting for somebody to do something that they're not supposed to do.

Difficult when you're surrounded by papparazzi.


erikaj - Sep 18, 2005 8:08:30 am PDT #1321 of 3301
Always Anti-fascist!

Yep. You could end up dragged across your trailer like Jim Rockford. Who seems to have been the seventies answer to Giles when it comes to being dragged across places after being hit on the head. Mr. Dietz, is, of course, a criminologist/expert witness who also advised on L&O. But recently he lost some credibility when he cited, in the the course of a real trial, a "Law and Order" episode that didn't exist. And this is probably natter.


Ginger - Sep 19, 2005 4:41:42 pm PDT #1322 of 3301
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I have been remiss in my duties, mostly because I was attacked by the evil Dragoncon plague.

A few pieces of trivia, by way of The New Annotated Sherlock Holmes about "The Speckled Band" and "The Blue Carbuncle."

"The Speckled Band"

Holmes says "'When a doctor does go wrong, he is the first of criminals.... Palmer and Pritchard were among the heads of their profession." William Palmer (1824-1856) was a surgeon who was hanged for poisoning his wife, brother and business associate for their insurance money and who was rumored to have poisoned perhaps 15 people. Edward William Pritchard (1825-1865) was a surgeon who was hanged for poisoning his wife and mother-in-law.

There is no such snake as as a "swamp adder." There is no snake venom that kills in 10 seconds. Snakes can't hear, so what was the whistle for?

"The Blue Carbuncle"

The word "carbuncle" normally refers to a garnet, but Holmes refers to it as "crystallized charcoal," which could only refer to a diamond. Also, there are no blue garnets.

The "billycock" hat that Holmes studies so closely is a bowler or derby.

Geese do not, strictly speaking, have crops.

Holmes says, "'When you see a man with whiskers of that cut and the 'Pink 'un' protruding out of his pocket, you can always draw him by a bet.'" The Pink 'un was a popular name for the Sporting Times, which was printed on pink paper like The Financial Times.

One Holmes scholar computes that in the 60 chronicled cases, there are 37 definite felonies in which Holmes determined who the guilty party, and, in 14 cases, Holmes freed the guilty person.


Connie Neil - Sep 19, 2005 6:42:16 pm PDT #1323 of 3301
brillig

in 14 cases, Holmes freed the guilty person

Holmes commented more than once that, as an unofficial person, he had more leeway in determining the outcomes of cases than the police.


erikaj - Sep 20, 2005 4:53:51 am PDT #1324 of 3301
Always Anti-fascist!

I tend to notice that unless it's a procedural, we never learn about the punishment in most detective stories. Or in hardboiled, people die instead of going to jail.


Connie Neil - Sep 20, 2005 5:08:19 am PDT #1325 of 3301
brillig

Or in hardboiled, people die instead of going to jail.

I've always thought that was because the case itself was so shaky legally that the perp had a decent chance of getting off, which would negate the come-uppance element of the tale.


erikaj - Sep 20, 2005 5:09:38 am PDT #1326 of 3301
Always Anti-fascist!

That could be, a lot of times.


sumi - Sep 20, 2005 5:14:27 am PDT #1327 of 3301
Art Crawl!!!

I think in mysteries the point is often that justice is served, even if the law isn't.


Cashmere - Oct 06, 2005 7:36:39 pm PDT #1328 of 3301
Now tagless for your comfort.

Not really subscribed but I saw this and wanted to bring it to everyone's attention. It's very funny.


Amy - Oct 07, 2005 3:37:10 am PDT #1329 of 3301
Because books.

Bwah! I want that shirt now.