Not really subscribed but I saw this and wanted to bring it to everyone's attention. It's very funny.
You're a bloody puppet! You're a wee little puppet man!
Spike ,'Smile Time'
The Buffista Book Club: the Harry Potter iteration
This thread is a focused discussion group. Please see the first post below for the current topic and upcoming book discussions. While natter will inevitably happen, we encourage you to treat this like a virtual book club and try to keep your posts in that spirit.
By consensus, this thread is reopened specifically to discuss Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows. It will be closed again once that discussion has run its course.
***SPOILER ALERT***
Cashmere - Oct 06, 2005 7:36:39 pm PDT #1328 of 3301
Now tagless for your comfort.
Amy - Oct 07, 2005 3:37:10 am PDT #1329 of 3301
Because books.
Bwah! I want that shirt now.
Connie Neil - Oct 07, 2005 4:37:13 am PDT #1330 of 3301
brillig
There's a whole comic strip associated with that shirt. It's called "Unshelved", and it's set in a public library. The young adult librarian, who is a guy, starts the book club. The creators of the strip are also big fans of all things Whedon, and the current week's strips are about how the YA librarian's girlfriend is annoyed with him for having already seen Serenity eleven times when they were supposed to go see it together.
Wolfram - Oct 07, 2005 5:35:23 am PDT #1331 of 3301
Visilurking
I love that comic. Also finished the selection, but then work and interviews and holidays yada yada yada. Happy to discuss...Ginger?
Volans - Oct 07, 2005 5:45:09 am PDT #1332 of 3301
move out and draw fire
and, in 14 cases, Holmes freed the guilty person.
On purpose?
Connie Neil - Oct 07, 2005 6:55:37 am PDT #1333 of 3301
brillig
On purpose?
Generally so, because he figured there were enough extenuating circumstances involved, ie, someone dealing with an abusive situation.
Wolfram - Oct 07, 2005 8:00:17 am PDT #1334 of 3301
Visilurking
From the assigned selections, Holmes comes off as being more in it for the meaty mystery, than for making sure justice is done.
Volans - Oct 07, 2005 9:52:27 am PDT #1335 of 3301
move out and draw fire
The ones I've read, I agree. I was wondering if there had ever been a Holmes story where he hadn't figured out the corrent answer.
But, I think there's an interesting gap between "he figured there were enough extenuating circumstances" and "was in it more for the mystery than the justice." I agree with both, but saying that Holmes gets to be the arbiter of when the circumstances extenuate means that he is the arbiter of justice to some degree.
Which ties back into why you don't see the incarceration of the criminal in classic detective stories, I think; the detective is also the judge and jury to an extent.
Connie Neil - Oct 07, 2005 10:10:07 am PDT #1336 of 3301
brillig
saying that Holmes gets to be the arbiter of when the circumstances extenuate means that he is the arbiter of justice to some degree.
Oh, definitely. He makes few apologies for that, often saying he has more latitude than the police since he's not a policeman. I'm sure part of him gets off on the power. Watson expressed discomfort for Holmes' high-handedness more than once.
Connie Neil - Oct 07, 2005 10:11:19 am PDT #1337 of 3301
brillig
(BTW, I'm quite enjoying having the current discussion being on such a famous character, because everyone is likely to be able to chime in, regardless of what they've read)