Got the exact quote:
Dumbledore was slumbering in a golden frame over the desk, his half-moon spectacles perched upon his crooked nose, looking peaceful and untroubled.
Get up...get up, you stupid piece of... What did you do that for? What's wrong with you? Didn't you hear a word he said? All of you! You think there's someone just going to drop money on you?! Money they could use?! Well, there ain't people like that. There's just people like me.
Jayne ,'Jaynestown'
The Buffista Book Club: the Harry Potter iteration
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***SPOILER ALERT***
Hil R. - Aug 08, 2005 4:34:48 pm PDT #1035 of 3301
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
billytea - Aug 08, 2005 4:35:24 pm PDT #1036 of 3301
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.
Yeah, but it seems only fair for him to get a brief rest period, what with being killed and all.
"Dumbledore, you've just been blasted off the roof and into the afterlife by an Unspeakable Curse! What are you going to do next?" "I'm going to Disney World!"
DebetEsse - Aug 08, 2005 4:36:31 pm PDT #1037 of 3301
Woe to the fucking wicked.
Hey, the Monks downstairs apparently have quite the wine supply. I'd think that'd do in a pinch.
Trudy Booth - Aug 08, 2005 5:40:29 pm PDT #1038 of 3301
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
non-dead people move in pictures
I think dumbledore is dead, but I think there are legitimate reasons for him to be alive -- the helpfulness of going undercover, the silent curses, the incessant phoenix imagery, flying from the killing, curse, the offer to fake draco's death...
Fay - Aug 08, 2005 5:44:52 pm PDT #1039 of 3301
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.
I think he's a goner. Pulling a Gandalf would be plausible, with all the phoenix imagery & so forth, but it would be such a cheat. And I don't think JKR lacks bottle to that degree - I think she's prepared to go the whole Mineare. I don't think Harry's going to die, but I've not ruled it out as a possibility. And I'm definitely feeling nervous for Snape. Think he'll maybe have a heroic death, but I wouldn't put it past JKR to give him a really annoying and pointless death ::cough::Sirius::cough::
Trudy Booth - Aug 08, 2005 5:46:59 pm PDT #1040 of 3301
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
I don't think its a cheat if its an elaborate set-up.
Fay - Aug 08, 2005 5:54:11 pm PDT #1041 of 3301
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.
Hmm.
I think that the mentor-losing thing is appropriate to the kind of story I perceive JKR to be putting together - if this is supposed to be a growing-to-manhood, rites-of-passage deal. Which is how I read it, at this point. And from Kenobi on back, it's a precedent which packs a lot of oomph. If we go for the Gandalf model - well, it's not without precedent, but it detracts from the rites of passage thing, I think. But it may be that it's what she's going for.
DebetEsse - Aug 08, 2005 5:55:56 pm PDT #1042 of 3301
Woe to the fucking wicked.
Some of it is the degree of set up. IMO, more of it is the emotional set-up and pay-off. Even if there's a deep technical explanation, if the result is an, "Oh, sorry about your emotional trauma, Harry. Not dead," it feels kinda ass-pull-y, even if it was built in from the get-go.
eta: the thing about Gandalf is that he is, but, he's kinda not, too. I mean, it's the same guy, but he's not the same as when he left. He achieved a higher level of wizard-ness, or whetever.
Trudy Booth - Aug 08, 2005 5:58:44 pm PDT #1043 of 3301
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
there's ways to make it work though... this year's wesleycrusher is that Harry thinks Dumbledore is alive and keeps finding clues and nobody believes him
but I still think he's dead
Frankenbuddha - Aug 09, 2005 4:12:56 am PDT #1044 of 3301
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
this year's wesleycrusher
Bwahahahahaha!!! LOVE it.
I think DD is dead because the argument Hagrid overheard makes no sense if they were going to pull a fake out. The only explanation would be that Snape doesn't know it's going to be a fake out either.
Anyone else hoping that when Harry visits Godric's Hollow (that's Harry's parents house, right?), he finds something with his mother's hand writing and realizes she's the one who put the notes in his potions book. Yes I may have drunk the kool-aid on this one, but it would certainly be the one thing that could get Harry to start re-thinking Snape's role in EVERYTHING (although Harry's stubborn enough to probably believe Snape stole the book from Lily at some point).