His mom was killed. Ellroy wrote a book about it--the cover was an actual new photo of Ellroy taken shortly after he learned his mom was murdered.
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Scrappy - Mar 07, 2005 9:13:49 am PST #9734 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
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erikaj - Mar 07, 2005 9:15:59 am PST #9735 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!
Yep, for a while he thought the Black Dahlia killer had done his mother. (Dude, just reading that stuff and I sound like that.Scary.) I'm not sure if he still believes that. Loving Nutty. Actually HS should be able imo to play that...she wasn't as hot a ticket as she thought she was, poor baby.
§ ita § - Mar 07, 2005 9:17:30 am PST #9736 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I don't think Swank is playing the victim.
Kathy A - Mar 07, 2005 9:19:05 am PST #9737 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil
Yes, Short wasn't the typical glamor pinup girl of 1940s Hollywood, as much as she wanted to be. I just remember being morbidly fascinated by the details of her death (cut it half? Yuck!) and saddened by the fact that the murderer was never caught and punished.
erikaj - Mar 07, 2005 9:20:27 am PST #9738 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!
But if you're a woman in Ellroy, you always do, play the victim. And, yeah, wrod, Kathy. And of course, that, um, physical imperfection that she had that I've never been able to find enough brain bleach to scrub.
Nutty - Mar 07, 2005 9:31:48 am PST #9739 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
But if you're a woman in Ellroy, you always do, play the victim.
A victim, or a whore AND a victim. If you're really lucky, you're ugly and can be a secretary.
Alibelle - Mar 07, 2005 9:39:46 am PST #9740 of 10001
Apart from sports, "my secret favorite thing on earth is ketchup. I will put ketchup on anything. But it has to be Heinz." - my husband, Michael Vartan
Well, she's already done that for M$B, hasn't she? But yeah -- the Crow/Clooney/Diesel effort seems to be mainly matched in women by them not wearing as much foundation.
Okay, it's unfair to forget Renee's Bridget, considering how much crap she put up with about her weight.
A victim, or a whore AND a victim. If you're really lucky, you're ugly and can be a secretary.
I am not being enticed to read any of his stuff.
And sorry, Aimee. I really disliked that book, and thus had no interest in watching the TV movie, despite what Oprah and Halle say.
erikaj - Mar 07, 2005 9:48:25 am PST #9741 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!
I liked it a lot...wish I'd seen it Aimee. But Halle strikes me as having the wrong appeal for it. I like the way the man writes Nutty but you are so very Wrod.(don't forget the "bull dykes") But at least you're not wondering "Dude, what did your mama do to you?" Cause, duh. Alibelle, he is very talented but, well, frightening. I feel incredibly ambivalent about reading it/him.
Nutty - Mar 07, 2005 10:14:56 am PST #9742 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
Right. Ellroy's got an entertaining bebop shtick, that wears thin about as quickly as shtick tends to do. Personally, I think he thinks he is cooler than he actually is.
Okay, it's unfair to forget Renee's Bridget, considering how much crap she put up with about her weight.
True. I think I forgot this example because I thinks he looks soooo much better with a bit of meat on her bones and I am actually blocking out her skinny periods.
§ ita § - Mar 07, 2005 10:24:20 am PST #9743 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
it's unfair to forget Renee's Bridget
I think it's unfair to characterise forgetting as unfair.
But I'm with Nutty -- I think she looks best somewhere between weights, and I much prefer her Bridget size to the size she prefers. When Clooney/Crowe/Diesel gain fat, I've never heard anyone say "Oh, that's better! I hope they don't go back to looking like they did before!"